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Old 11-13-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Totalbet and UKbetting poker (crypto) are scum

They advertised with a november sunday promotion at their tables: Any 2 dealt aces and you win a 25 bonus every sunday in november. Max 2 claims per promotion.

Today, without notice they had changed "any 2 aces" to "2 RED aces", next sunday to "2 BLACK aces". In other words they are giving away 1/6 of the "fantastic promotion" bonuses advertised.

Maybe they were hit hard last sunday, but then they are idiots that can't calculate odds.

F*** them! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:25 AM
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they not change their advertised promotions last monday?

seems like they were hit hard last week and they are dumb for not realising that they would be but they did give almmost a weeks notice
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Totalbet and UKbetting poker (crypto) are scum

they are 'scum' how?

how exactly have they defrauded you or cost you money?

the AA promo is a bonus on top of the easiest bonus to release on the net - 25 for 5 hrs table play

they honored the any AA bonus last weekend despite being hit hard by whores like you who had probably never even heard of the site before and then gave everyone a week's notice that it would run under the altered terms for the rest of the month

none of this has cost you time or money - they may have understimated how hard the whores would hit, but that hardly makes them 'scum' - just play your 5 hrs and pocket at least $45 - and hope and for some red or black aces on top -assuming you can manage to get out or your 'whaaaambulance' long enough to play break even of course.. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: Totalbet and UKbetting poker (crypto) are scum

Dude, if you ever reach 1/10 of what I have earned at poker you can call yourself successfull. Do your homework before opening your big mouth.

And I know that "business before honor" is the american way (in this case the english way as well), but for "us" that are use to our society not allowing "scums" to change the terms of a promotion (that's right, over here if the casino is dumb enough to make a mistake, they have to pay for it) such actions seem unreal. The same way if you have a shop and you put an add in the paper advertising with a price and refuse to sell the item for that amount (no excuse is good enough), you just complain to the state and the "scum" is forced to oblige.

It's called "consumer protection".

Have a nive day!
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Totalbet and UKbetting poker (crypto) are scum

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Dude, if you ever reach 1/10 of what I have earned at poker you can call yourself successfull. Do your homework before opening your big mouth.

And I know that "business before honor" is the american way (in this case the english way as well), but for "us" that are use to our society not allowing "scums" to change the terms of a promotion (that's right, over here if the casino is dumb enough to make a mistake, they have to pay for it) such actions seem unreal. The same way if you have a shop and you put an add in the paper advertising with a price and refuse to sell the item for that amount (no excuse is good enough), you just complain to the state and the "scum" is forced to oblige.

It's called "consumer protection".

Have a nive day!

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They did pay for their mistake, realized it was not viable and changed it for coming weeks. How on earth this is unfair is beyond me. If you don't like the current conditions, don't play there. I suppose you haven't spent time generating rake for them during the week to actually make them think such a promotion is a good idea in the long run?

Many bonuswhores have a distorted sense of entitlement.
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: Totalbet and UKbetting poker (crypto) are scum

Ok lets take it one more time from scratch.

- They run a 4-day promotion.
- After the first day, they change the terms of the promotion to one that is much more favorable to them.
- We assume it is because they lost money the first day, we don't really know.
- People that have no idea they have changed the promotion keep playing other sundays during november (that is good for them, not for the dummys that have no idea they won't be getting their money)

Are you starting to have an idea why this kind of thing shouldn't be permitted? if not, don't quit your day job or try desperately to find one....

Sometimes, I really wonder.....
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Old 11-13-2005, 07:36 PM
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Many bonuswhores have a distorted sense of entitlement.


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This is why I stopped whoring and just play at a few sites. BWs are a lowly bunch (and I should know I was one o the biggest ones).
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:36 PM
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You are obviously intelligent enough to realise that you have no legal recourse against them. There is no contract and I bet in the TOS small print they reserve the right to amend/withdraw the promo at any time.

So what you are complaining about is a moral issue. They made a mistake, you took advantage of that for one day (was it the only day you've played at their site btw?) and then they close the loophole for weeks 2-4.

What would make them 'scum' is if they had let you play then retrospectively failed to honor the bonus. They just corrected a mistake and gave at least 6 days advance warning of the change - it is far from clear that the bonus whore's position here is in any way morally superior to the site's.

Most adults just commented 'well it was too good to last, I bet the bonus whores hit em real hard'. You on the other hand getinto your 'waaambulance' and vastly overstate the issue.

What about the site a couple of weeks ago who cancelled a guaranteed payment rebuy MTT coz their rebuy software got stuck after 30 minutes and it became a de facto freezeout (they just returned the entry fee rather than sharing the guaranteed payout between those left) - now there you have a much stronger case from an ethical viewpoint.

And if you're as good as you claim, then what on earth are you worrying about such tiny bonuses for anyway?
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Totalbet and UKbetting poker (crypto) are scum

When they begun their promotion, they sent an e-mail to all their customers. That is like 20 minuttes work and 1 push in the "enter button".
When they decided to alter the promotion, they just changed "any 2 aces" to "2red aces" the page on the website (which not many visit more than once, even if I could admit that it is a mistake not to check every day what you are getting into).
There was no e-mail this time (about 5 minutes work and still 1 lonely push on the "enter" button).

Had I got an email, telling me, sorry, but we were very stupid last time and we can't keep our word, therefor we change the promotion to something that will reward 1/6 of what we promissed, I would have laughed at them and moved on.
What irritates me, is that not only me, but a bunch of other players are suddenly sitting at their tables not knowing that the bonus terms have been changed, because the site knows that this is going to happen and that they will earn from it. Of course they are allowed to alter their stupid promotion, and they can always say that one could read about it at this or that page (notice again that it does not say "we have changed the promotion", it just says something else as if nothing ever had ocurred) but they do it in a way so they catch as many ignorant players as possible.

And yes, it is a moral issue, and you can be a scum also from a moral point of view.
As I said before, I understand they were probably hitten hard, but I and others, just received a mail telling us "come and play because we are offering this and that" I cannot see what the fact of me playing there or not at other occasions has to do with anything. They asked me to come, and I fulfilled my part of the deal.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: Totalbet and UKbetting poker (crypto) are scum

william, if you ever make 1/10 of what I MAKE then you....LOL, dude, no matter what you make, someone is going to laugh at that and makes WAY MORE!!!

As far as the promotion goes, they gave you plenty of time, quit whining like a little girl.
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