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12-03-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
I'm still a tad confused... holding the deck upside down?! So the bottom card is showing and you are dealing offthe bottom (formely the top) of the deck? It just seems stupid. Wouldn;t worry about this being used as a cheating technique anywhere, all people will know is that 1 card (the bottom card) won't get dealt, not a big enough gap in info to take your money unless they alreayd waaay outplay you.
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12-03-2005, 11:45 AM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
He means the dealt is tiled slighlty so you can't see the top card from where you are seated. This allows second deals quite easily.
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12-03-2005, 12:27 PM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
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I'm still a tad confused... holding the deck upside down?! So the bottom card is showing and you are dealing offthe bottom (formely the top) of the deck? It just seems stupid. Wouldn;t worry about this being used as a cheating technique anywhere, all people will know is that 1 card (the bottom card) won't get dealt, not a big enough gap in info to take your money unless they alreayd waaay outplay you. [/ QUOTE ] It is hard to describe, but if I was there I could show you how the dealer can tae a peak at the cards coming off the top of the deck while it is upside down. There are many bad things that can happen to a player when the dealer rolls the deck. I was in Las Vegas for about a week, and every room I went to was vulnerable to both having a mechanic deal and having money stolen directly from the pot. In today's poker environment the players are not protected.
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12-03-2005, 01:52 PM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
I have sat in the 1 seat and clearly seen cards at the top of the deck from a dealer who rolled the deck. She did not roll it completely over just at an angle. (actually it was in Photoc's room).
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12-03-2005, 02:02 PM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
[ QUOTE ]
I'm still a tad confused... holding the deck upside down?! So the bottom card is showing and you are dealing offthe bottom (formely the top) of the deck? It just seems stupid. Wouldn;t worry about this being used as a cheating technique anywhere, all people will know is that 1 card (the bottom card) won't get dealt, not a big enough gap in info to take your money unless they alreayd waaay outplay you. [/ QUOTE ] Nope, you are not getting it. Let me try to be more discriptive. Most dealers (all in a casino) will use a "cut card", which is not a card at all but a piece of plastic that is exactly the same size as a playing card. When the deck is cut the cut card ends up on the bottom so the bottom card is not exposed. We are not talking about exposing or dealing from the bottom of the deck. Most dealers will hold the deck in their left hand. So when they need to pull in bets and discards from the left side of the table they need to use their left hand unless they have ape arms. Many will roll the deck while doing this and Randy has already explained why this is a problem. Many will also roll the deck when they are not doing anything or anything that requires their deck hand.
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12-03-2005, 04:18 PM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
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Most dealers will hold the deck in their left hand. So when they need to pull in bets and discards from the left side of the table they need to use their left hand unless they have ape arms. Many will roll the deck while doing this and Randy has already explained why this is a problem. [/ QUOTE ] Hi! I've read this whole thread and am still unsure if I know what a deck roll is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I understood you up until this point (and thank you for taking the time to describe it). Are you saying that the dealer keeps the deck in his left hand when he is pulling in bets and discards? If so, then I understand you. However, I'm still not sure how cards get exposed when that happens.
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12-03-2005, 04:37 PM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
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However, I'm still not sure how cards get exposed when that happens. [/ QUOTE ] While the deck is tipped he can slide the top cards off and peek at them. Also this can occur by accident if his grip slips. If the deck is level there is nothing to see even if the top cards slides a little.
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#9
12-03-2005, 04:45 PM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
FOr those who don't understand it. Try this.
Take a deck of cards, hold it in your left or right hand with the deck parallel to the table. Now "roll" your hand like you are turning a door knob.
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12-03-2005, 11:17 PM
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Re: what exactly is this \"deck roll\" i\'m hearing so much about?
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FOr those who don't understand it. Try this. Take a deck of cards, hold it in your left or right hand with the deck parallel to the table. Now "roll" your hand like you are turning a door knob. [/ QUOTE ] For those who don't understand how this exposes cards try this. Hold the deck as Photoc told you and push the top card forward (or backward or to the left) so that it overhangs the deck. now with that card overhanging the deck rotate the the whole deck the way Photoc described.
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