Black AA on the button.

[Bob T.]

Really, I never thought I would post an AA hand ever again, but this one had an interesting decision in it.

Online 5-10 game, the SB, is slightly loose, and moderately passive, but otherwise seems to play a reasonable game.

Folded to me on the button, and I have both black aces. I open raise, the SB calls, and the BB folds.

Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet, and the SB checkraises. Hmmm way behind, or way ahead. I know what to do. I call.

Turn 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB bets, I call.

River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB checks, and it is my turn, what do you do here?

Has he decided that his queen or pocket pair will only be called by a better hand?

Is he worried that I have a better King?

Is he trying to trap me for a checkraise?

What would you do, and under what circumstances would you do the other thing. (I assume that folding before the showdown isn't an option [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

[bisonbison]

I would order the possibilities this way:

1. not a king. worried.
2. check-raise attempt against known value-bettor.
3. worried you have better king or missed flushdraw.

I think it's a bet. Though it'd be interesting to hear how well he knows you.

[Bob T.]

Though it'd be interesting to hear how well he knows you. I've got 121 hands against him in the last two days.

[runa]

I put the SB's check-raise on the flop as either a flush draw, a queen w/ok kicker, or viewed your raise and flop bet as a steal from the button and is on a resteal attempt. A king would have waited until the turn to raise since you raised preflop and bet the flop.

That river check is certainly weakness and I think you have to bet the river since a queen or PP might be looking for a cheap showdown or induce a bluff from a weaker hand, but will call one bet, and I don't expect to be check-raised here.

[sfer]

I bet. If he's paid attention to you for 121 hands over 48 hours he's seen you play aggressively and bet/raise lots of hands for value. The fact that you slowed down on the flop means you don't have a K, and that you probably won't bet the river for value with a smaller pair, which means if he has a K he doesn't want this river getting checked through. So he would bet. He didn't, he doesn't have a K, thus you bet.

My head now hurts so let's just assume he never checkraises you. Mmmm-kay?

[Bob T.]

I put the SB's check-raise on the flop as either a flush draw, a queen w/ok kicker, or viewed your raise and flop bet as a steal from the button and is on a resteal attempt. A king would have waited until the turn to raise since you raised preflop and bet the flop.


The thing that concerns me, is that this is a moderately passive player, and that he checkraised the flop, which is a pretty aggressive action. I just looked in my PT stats, and this is his only checkraise.

He might have hit the flop, and been afraid that I would check behind on the turn. Maybe he hasn't been paying attention to how much I bet.

I am also a little worried that he might be trying to trap me here for another bet, because he knows that I am aggressive.

[Bob T.]

Everyone said Bet.

My mind said bet.

But I was very suspicious about this sequence from a passive player, so I decided to check.

He held KT suited and HHWG, and I don't know if it was fear or trickiness that made him check the river.

[DataMiner]

[quoteHe held KT suited and HHWG, and I don't know if it was fear or trickiness that made him check the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

Definitely trickiness. Unless it was fear. In that case, he may have been fearful of his own trickiness. Or tricked into fearing your trickiness.

But yeah, bet this and lose properly (easy for _me_ to say now that you posted the results [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]).

[Danenania]

With KT I'd guess it was fear. All preflop raisers have AK remember?

I would bet this as a default but I'm a firm believer in trusting the 6th sense, once it has been developed enough.