No reads, paired flop, tons of aggression...

[Saint_D]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.


River: (12.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

[istewart]

I'd 3-bet the flop. The way you played it I would fold the turn.

[Eeegah]

Some raise this PF, some fold. I'm in the latter but I'm sure you've heard all the arguments there before.

It's hard to say without reads, but I think most villains tighten up at least somewhat when they call a raise. I'm not too worried about him having trips unless he had A2o or something, but if he turned out to be a tight player then AJs wouldn't be out of the question. I think I 3-bet this flop as I smell a weaker Jack.

I also lead out the turn for the same reason. When the BB checkraises though I think it's obvious he can beat top pair. My guess is slowplayed trips, J9 or even a really unlikely J2, but either way it's bad news, and I don't think I want to pay at least 3 bets to find out what he's got, and if we're behind we don't have odds to improve. I fold this turn the way you played it.

[milesdyson]

i'd fold the turn in a heartbeat. bb has the deuce. i agree with istewart that this is a 3-betting flop (even though i am worried about BB immediately by him calling two cold on a J22 rainbow flop).

[LoaferGee12]

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I'd 3-bet the flop. The way you played it I would fold the turn.

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Fold preflop?

Fold turn?

Those are my plays

[NobodysFreak]

fold, pre-flop.

given that... why are we cold calling the turn?

[Saint_D]

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fold, pre-flop.


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Not a bad default play. With the execption of the two new people at the table, this table had been tight overall. I had opened up my PF raising standards a lot. And I had stolen the blinds about 10 times. This is basically when I got caught.

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given that... why are we cold calling the turn?

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The turn? Why was I even around for the turn? why did I call the flop raise?

I was not happy with how this hand played out at all.

Results:
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BB shows J9s
MP shows 55
Hero wins with a pair of jacks, king kicker.

I had no business winning this, and felt like a dork.

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[milesdyson]

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Results:
<font color="white">
BB shows J9s
MP shows 55
Hero wins with a pair of jacks, king kicker.

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well this is obviously wrong...

[Paxosmotic]

I'd 3bet the turn and raise the river. BB is on a smaller jack, probably a J9s given his turn raise, and MP1 is futily hoping that neither of you have a jack. He's probably on a middle pair like 55.