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Old 12-15-2005, 04:04 PM
BillsChips BillsChips is offline
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Default Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

I've been playing online (Absolute) for about a month. I deposited $95 and was basically able to play break-even (1/2 Limit) to earn my $180 bonus. Had the account up to $285 and now after a brutal week and a half, have only $21 left. During this time I've reread SSHE and started up PokerTracker to see if it's me or just bad luck. According to PT, my two biggest losing hands are AKs and KQs. I can't win with a set, ever. I don't slow-play my big hands because I get outdrawn almost every time. My most costly made hands are sets, including Aces. My monster hands either win me the blinds or cost me a fortune.

Thought I was going to close out last night's session with a nice win to bring me close to cutting my loses in half(for the night). I flopped the nut flush in a raised family pot. Runner-Runner eights gives somebody a boat.

I know...whine, whine, whine, but I just don't see this ever working. I've been playing live for 2 years 10/20 limit and 1/2 NL, and have been successful.

Fold, fold, fold...monster...broke. This is the pattern.

I'll bleed off the rest of my feeble stack tonight and then it's goodbye to Online poker.

Bill
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

A $95 bankroll is no where near adequate to play 1/2. $600 would be the minimum for a winning player. I play NL online and use a 20-30 buy-in rule before I consider moving up levels. I recommend that you look at the FAQs in some of the limit forums to get a better idea of what to do with $95 online. I know in NL, I would say go build a stack in the micros.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

I understand that $295 is a relatively small bankroll, but I think it's enough for me to see that this won't work out at all. Even if I was a total fish, I should be able to win once in a while. I think that by playing tightly in these very tight games, I'm getting blinded to death. It also doesn't help that I just can't catch a break.

Fold, Fold, Fold, Big Blind - hit top pair with no kicker, take a stab at the pot by betting, get called or raised by someone on a good draw or same pair, better kicker, lose.

Rinse, repeat.
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Old 12-16-2005, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

Well, clearly you have to adjust your game to the type of players you are against. You can't play the same way at Absolute as you do at Party...it's just not the same game. And saying that 150BB is enough is just ignorant. It is not enough, simple as that. But if you are so set in these ideas, then you were right about one thing...online poker is not for you.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

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But if you are so set in these ideas, then you were right about one thing...online poker is not for you.

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Well said.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

Most 10/20 live games are MUCH easier than Absolute 1/2.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

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Most 10/20 live games are MUCH easier than Absolute 1/2.

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I don't play live $10/20, but I can imagine this must be true.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

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During this time I've reread SSHE and started up PokerTracker to see if it's me or just bad luck. According to PT, my two biggest losing hands are AKs and KQs. I can't win with a set, ever. I don't slow-play my big hands because I get outdrawn almost every time. My most costly made hands are sets, including Aces.

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So it's pretty clearly bad luck, wouldn't you say? In the long run those hands will make a lot of money. In the short term, anything can happen. How many hands are we talking about?

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I know...whine, whine, whine, but I just don't see this ever working. I've been playing live for 2 years 10/20 limit and 1/2 NL, and have been successful.

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I still suck at poker, and I've managed to net a decent amount of money (most of it bonuses) this year playing a few hours a week at a variety of sites. I'm not saying that to brag, but to point out that it is possible. Absolute is filled with tight bonus whores, though. If you want something more like the casino poker experience, you should try out Party. The players there are pretty bad. Even with bonuses and the unmentionable at Absolute, I'm starting to think playing at Absolute may be less profitable than Party for me.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: Near the end of my brief Online career -Whine

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. Absolute is filled with tight bonus whores, though. If you want something more like the casino poker experience, you should try out Party. The players there are pretty bad. Even with bonuses and the unmentionable at Absolute, I'm starting to think playing at Absolute may be less profitable than Party for me.

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I'm leaving Absolute for this reason...I ran up my $200 bonus, and pretty much figured out it's a bonus-whore TAGfest. Plus being 9-max, that's essentially another 1.5BB/100 you've gotta cough up.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:19 PM
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I can sympathize. I've done much better, far more consistently in B&M games than online. It seems like it goes in streaks, and when in a bad one, nothing will work. I think online seems worse because of the large amount of hands we play in a relatively short period of time. We remember every bad beat and screw job, but not the zillion folds and regular hands that aren't outstanding in our minds. Last week I was in an online tourney with 20 people left. It paid to 12. I'm in approx 10th place. I get pocket 10's OTB. Fold to me. I raise a fair amount, trying to steal the blinds. BB raises me big. He's a LAG and has pulled this stunt with mid pairs a few times over that last 25 or so hands. I put him on a mid-pair or two overs. I go all-in, he calls with 7-7. Looks like I'm gonna be the chip leader !! Flop is 5-6-10. Yee haw! Turn 3, river 4. I'm busted. Dang near threw the monitor out the window. Swore I was gonna quit, for real this time.

I'm still playing. I think they call us masochists.
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