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$16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
Yes the preflop call is very questionable but my question is regarding the push.
PokerStars Game #3445066133: Tournament #17091723, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/12/26 - 21:49:24 (ET) Table '17091723 1' Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: dealer18 (1500 in chips) Seat 2: JanePat (1500 in chips) Seat 3: Roland (1500 in chips) Seat 4: MORAN23 (1500 in chips) Seat 5: Tidlund (1500 in chips) Seat 6: PVMAN (1500 in chips) Seat 7: shooteruk (1500 in chips) Seat 8: ZooKa (1500 in chips) Seat 9: reg124 (1500 in chips) JanePat: posts small blind 10 Roland: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Roland [9d Td] MORAN23: folds Tidlund: folds PVMAN: folds shooteruk: raises 60 to 80 ZooKa: folds reg124: calls 80 dealer18: folds JanePat: folds Roland: calls 60 *** FLOP *** [9s Ad Jd] Roland: checks shooteruk: checks reg124: bets 240 Roland: raises 1180 to 1420 and is all-in shooteruk: folds reg124: calls 1180 and is all-in *** TURN *** [9s Ad Jd] [4h] *** RIVER *** [9s Ad Jd 4h] [3h] *** SHOW DOWN *** Roland: shows [9d Td] (a pair of Nines) reg124: shows [As Qs] (a pair of Aces) reg124 collected 3090 from pot reg124 said, "flush chaser" *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3090 | Rake 0 Board [9s Ad Jd 4h 3h] Seat 1: dealer18 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: JanePat (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: Roland (big blind) showed [9d Td] and lost with a pair of Nines Seat 4: MORAN23 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Tidlund folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: PVMAN folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: shooteruk folded on the Flop Seat 8: ZooKa folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: reg124 showed [As Qs] and won (3090) with a pair of Aces |
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
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Yes the preflop call is very questionable but my question is regarding the push. [/ QUOTE ] Why do people say stuff like this? They don't want discussion of the obviously-misplayed part of the hand but they don't want to hear some reinforcement of what is a very obvious push with a pair and a flush draw. Yes the push on the flop is completely fine, I think, especially since there is 400 in the pot if he folds. I think leading out here is just fine too. |
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
Well because I knew it WAS the wrong play. If you want to discuss the preflop call thats fine but I already knew that answer.
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
When I got caught speeding I told the officer I didn't want to hear anything about the ticket I just expected to be congratulated on wearing my seat belt.
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
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When I got caught speeding I told the officer I didn't want to hear anything about the ticket I just expected to be congratulated on wearing my seat belt. [/ QUOTE ] nh |
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
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Well because I knew it WAS the wrong play. If you want to discuss the preflop call thats fine but I already knew that answer. [/ QUOTE ] Well if the preflop is obvious to you should the postflop not be equally obvious? |
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
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[ QUOTE ] Well because I knew it WAS the wrong play. If you want to discuss the preflop call thats fine but I already knew that answer. [/ QUOTE ] Well if the preflop is obvious to you should the postflop not be equally obvious? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure about Roland's ablility, but preflop is obvious to me. Postflop, while somewhat obvious, is definitely not equally obvious to me. |
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
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I'm not sure about Roland's ablility, but preflop is obvious to me. Postflop, while somewhat obvious, is definitely not equally obvious to me. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe that was too far of me to think the two are equally obvious but I will say that C/Ring all-in with a pair and a flush draw is second nature to me, and probably most cash game players. |
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
Pushing likely coinflips versus pot committing raises early in a SNG is poor play imo.
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Re: $16 Turbo - I Still Think this was Right
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Pushing likely coinflips versus pot committing raises early in a SNG is poor play imo. [/ QUOTE ] What the? |
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