Conditional Suffrage?

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Right now, to the best of my knowledge, the only requirements to register to vote and do so are:

1) 18 years of age or older.
2) Be a US citizen.
3) Not be a convicted felon.

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I think "conditional suffrage" is a bad idea. But I also think condition #3 on voting (I know, it's state by state, not federal) is outrageous.

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Yeah, I really don't see what condition #3 has to do with it at all.

[Ed Miller]

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Right now, to the best of my knowledge, the only requirements to register to vote and do so are:

1) 18 years of age or older.
2) Be a US citizen.
3) Not be a convicted felon.

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I think "conditional suffrage" is a bad idea. But I also think condition #3 on voting (I know, it's state by state, not federal) is outrageous.

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Yeah, I really don't see what condition #3 has to do with it at all.

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It's worse than that. Convict political enemies of some vague "undermining national interests" felony and they can't vote you out of office.

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It's worse than that. Convict political enemies of some vague "undermining national interests" felony and they can't vote you out of office.

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Although in dire worst case scenarios that potential might be true though highly improbable, I would estimate that the number of such convicted felons is now close to zero. Whereas the class of convicted felons who are murderers, rapists, pedophiles and armed robbers without voting rights runs into the hundreds of thousands. And of course those persons would all vote democratic since they know who is the weakest on crime and punishment and places the rights of criminal perpetrators higher than that of victims.

[Borodog]

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It's worse than that. Convict political enemies of some vague "undermining national interests" felony and they can't vote you out of office.

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Although in dire worst case scenarios that potential might be true though highly improbable, I would estimate that the number of such convicted felons is now close to zero . . .

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Actually, the number must easily be in the hundreds of thousands, if not the millions. A large fraction of our prison population is made up of political prisoners who have never stolen a dollar or doughnut nor harmed anyone, but who upon their release cannot vote out the despicable [censored] who ruined their lives.

Great system.

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Oh, so now drug dealers are political prisoners? Call Amnesty International!

[Borodog]

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Oh, so now drug dealers are political prisoners? Call Amnesty International!

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In what way are they not?

Thanks for making my point, by the way.

[Warik]

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In what way are they not?

Thanks for making my point, by the way.

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In the way where dealing drugs is illegal.

Should we escort them to the polls with armed guards or should they get absentee ballots like the military?

If they get absentee ballots, can we try to disqualify them like we do to the military?

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Although I don't use drugs, I personally believe that pot and some other drugs should be legalized. Nonetheless, even low level dealers who never participate in violence are part of a network/class that uses violence against rival dealers and against members of law enforcement and witnesses. They thus share culpability in perpetuating that violence because they chose to commit those illegal acts rather than get a job.

[Warik]

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It's worse than that. Convict political enemies of some vague "undermining national interests" felony and they can't vote you out of office.

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You do realize you have to actually commit a real crime before you can be considered a convicted felon, right? Last time I checked, "vaguely undermining national interests" wasn't a crime.