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Old 08-17-2005, 11:24 PM
ghostface ghostface is offline
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Default 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

Villain is 12/9/8 after 33 hands. Havent seen anything crazy yet.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (17 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

Ok my question is about my line. I have been playing 1/2 6-max up till today and I was wondering if this line is OK or if you have another suggestion.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

This cant be the best way to play this hand.

or

Bump.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

Raising the flop would probably be a better line. Get more bets out of MP3.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

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Raising the flop would probably be a better line. Get more bets out of MP3

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I don't think he 's going to get more out of MP3 then what he did in that hand. If he raises the flop, gets 3 bet and calls the turn MP 3 gives up 2.5 BB which is less then the 3.5 he just got out of him.

If he caps the flop and calls the turn he's still only getting 3 BB out of MP3

If he caps the flop and then raises the turn he's spewing chips and at that point it doesn't matter how much he gets out of MP3.

I play this the same as well, considering his aggresion factor is 8
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

Dont think I win this 5% of the time?
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

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Old 08-18-2005, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

With an aggresion factor of 8 I call this down
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

I would raise the flop. Why not? Just smile and call the river. You only have 33 hands on this guy. That is not enough to fold the river. Obviously you are going to be second best most of the time, but oh well.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

Is his AF really 8? I'm not much of a PT guy, but isn't that absurdly aggressive? If so, i don't see how you can fold the river for 1 bet.

I think this line is good. We have bad relative position for trying to knock MP3 out (especially on the cheap street), and the pot is already big, so isn't this a good time to wait for the turn to protect our hand?
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ flops over pair, lots of aggression

it's only after 33 hands. 12 vpip is also absurd
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