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Old 12-28-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: first hand of single-table 10

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wow, this is shocking to me. could you please explain further as to why you would play so conservativly?

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See my post about playing TT in the other thread on the front page.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:00 PM
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Folding TT here is just being stupid. You can play weak - and you can play too weak.
It's fine to limp. I'd raise to t60 though.

I'm probably check-folding the flop.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:04 PM
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It's fine to limp. I'd raise to t60 though.

I'm probably check-folding the flop.

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This is a bad idea. You will get too many callers and you end up playing for set value, just at a higher price than if you limp.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:09 PM
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This is a bad idea. You will get too many callers and you end up playing for set value, just at a higher price than if you limp.

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Whatever works for you.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:47 PM
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This is a bad idea. You will get too many callers and you end up playing for set value, just at a higher price than if you limp.

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I agree. I also recommend doing the same with JJ early in $11-$22. If you want to raise people out of the pot (to win what, t25?) - raise 125-175. However, best play is - limp, fold if raised, fold if miss the set.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: first hand of single-table 10

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If you want to raise people out of the pot (to win what, t25?) - raise 125-175.

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The idea is not to raise everyone out of the pot, but rather to narrow down the field to a single opponent. When you do this you can profitably bet many flops because 2/3 of the time the flop will miss villain. I am not advocating this play in this spot, I'm just explaining the logic of the raise. It's an important distinction. In one case, you are trying to steal the blinds. In the other, you are generating a pot worth stealing on the flop by picking up (hopefully!) one and only one calller.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:04 AM
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you are generating a pot worth stealing on the flop by picking up (hopefully!) one and only one calller.

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I'm not advocating this play either. I'm also not going to try and pick up some chips on such a bluff this early on. Plus, it doesn't always work - earlier today I raised t125 with AQs in MP2 (in $22 SnG) and got 4 callers...
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:10 PM
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Uh... if you're going to see a flop with TT, you better not fold to all undercards without a serious read, which you probably won't have on the first hand. Also, limping rather than raising preflop keeps the pot smaller, which will keep you out of a lot of trouble with marginal holdings such as TT.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:14 PM
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I don't fold all flops with undercards. I fold when I suspect that I'm beat. This villains betting pattern is enough for me to lay down TT.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:15 PM
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I don't fold all flops with undercards. I fold when I suspect that I'm beat. This villains betting pattern is enough for me to lay down TT.

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You are aware that this is a 10+1? And that you just made a read based on the villain's "betting pattern"?
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