Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

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But can anyone explain why they wont OPENRAISE in 6-max with 22-55?
With small pairs we are looking for a set,
and 222 is almost always equal to 777.

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utg?

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Yes. If you are willing to LIMP with 22 utg, why not just go ahead and raise?
Granted, you could get to see some cheap multiway flops.
But, IMHO, your chance to win many small pots (and a few big ones) is greatly increased if you show some strength from the start.
Why am I wrong?

Edit: I am talking 6-max here

[Hoopster81]

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Why am I wrong?

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Because you are going to be playing a raised pot, out of position, with 3 guaranteed overcards on the flop. 6-max, I will usually raise 77+ (sometimes 66) and limp 22-55 UTG.

[teamdonkey]

blah blah implied odds blah blah hit set take stack blah

the simple fact is these hands are only marginally profitable. They will only rarely win you pots at showdown unimproved, and will always be on the losing end of set-over-set situations. Over 60,000 hands i show a whopping +0.14BB/hand with this group, while 66-99 is +0.57BB/hand. I treat these like suited connectors and play them with position.

[Fallen Hero]

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blah blah implied odds blah blah hit set take stack blah

the simple fact is these hands are only marginally profitable. They will only rarely win you pots at showdown unimproved, and will always be on the losing end of set-over-set situations. Over 60,000 hands i show a whopping +0.14BB/hand with this group, while 66-99 is +0.57BB/hand. I treat these like suited connectors and play them with position.

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I show a lot more proffit from mine if that's usefull at all

[teamdonkey]

if you're suggesting i'd do better with them if i played them more aggressively, you could be right. I just know as a group i make about twice as much per hand with A2s-A9s.

[djoyce003]

I play 6 max granted and I limp them always unless first in on the button, which I raise. I average over 1bb/hand with these. I think you are having issues getting paid off I guess, or you are playing full ring which is a little different to begin with.

In a 6 max I'll limp them. If it's a full ring I'll muck 2-2, 4-4, call with 5-5 to 8-8 and raise the rest of the pairs.

I think that when playing small pocket pairs UTG *edit* in a shorthanded setting - raising > calling > folding .

[Maulik]

Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

yes

[teamdonkey]

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I play 6 max granted and I limp them always unless first in on the button, which I raise. I average over 1bb/hand with these. I think you are having issues getting paid off I guess, or you are playing full ring which is a little different to begin with.

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no offense, but i have exactly 10 hands that i'm making more than 1BB/hand with. If you're making more than that with 22-55 you're either getting very lucky with those or your overall win rate is > 30BB/100.