Federal Response to Katrina FASTER than to Andrew, Hugo & Others

[BCPVP]

If you're referring to the "federalizing" argument you and I had before, then I'll tell you that the only way I've found (so far) for the President to federalize the Nat'l Guard would be for the governor to request such a move and/or a state of martial law would have to exist. Neither of these is the case in LA, so I believe Bush cannot federalize the Guard.

[slamdunkpro]

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Neither of these is the case in LA, so I believe Bush cannot federalize the Guard.

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Only by implementing the insurrection act – imagine the howls in liberal land if he did that!

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Neither of these is the case in LA, so I believe Bush cannot federalize the Guard.

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Only by implementing the insurrection act – imagine the howls in liberal land if he did that!

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So you believe Bush decided against this drastic option which would enable a faster federal response and result in lives saved because he was afaid of "howls in liberal land"?

I mean just listen to yourself...

[slamdunkpro]

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So you believe Bush decided against this drastic option which would enable a faster federal response and result in lives saved because he was afaid of "howls in liberal land"?

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No, the point is.......sigh....never mind, that would be a waste of time - just keep on chanting "It's all Bush's fault".

[BCPVP]

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So you believe Bush decided against this drastic option which would enable a faster federal response and result in lives saved because he was afaid of "howls in liberal land"?

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That's not what he said and you know it.

I guess this would be the section regarding sending troops/Guard:
Quelling Civil Disturbances: The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C. § 331 et seq.)

* State and local governments have primary responsibility for quelling rebellions (32 C.F.R. § 215.4(a).
* The President may use the military (including the Federalized National Guard) to quell (1) civil disturbances in a State (upon the Governor's request), (2) rebellions that make it difficult to enforce Federal law, or (3) any insurrection that impedes a State's ability to protect citizens' constitutional rights and that State is unable to unwilling to protect these rights.
* Before committing U.S. troops, the President must issue a proclamation for rebellious citizens to disperse, cease, and desist.
* Some government attorneys believe that the Insurrection Act is subject to a very liberal interpretation.

I don't think Bush could even use the Insurrection Act, under these circumstances, as it's not clear to me that the tests established for invoking it would be met. But I'm not a lawyer...

[Autocratic]

As was said, this was worse than any previous natural disaster, which is pretty obvious by now. On top of that, past failures aren't meant to pave the way for future failures.

And even if that were so, I have trouble reading sources that think Hurricane Andrew hit in 2002.

[slamdunkpro]

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And even if that were so, I have trouble reading sources that think Hurricane Andrew hit in 2002.

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Typo - the original artical says:

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For instance, it took five days for National Guard troops to arrive in strength on the scene in Homestead, Fla. after Hurricane Andrew hit in 1992. But after Katrina, there was a significant National Guard presence in the afflicted region in three.

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[cardcounter0]

Hmmmmm... 1992 was how many years before 9/11, the formation of the HomeLand Security Dept., the spending of billions for domestic protection, the election of the President wanting to make us all safer?

I think the response to the Great Chicago Fire was really slow too. Should we hold our modern fire fighters to this same reponse time that they exhibited 100 years ago?

Gee... this response was almost as fast as a response to a smaller event when Daddy was in charge. Good job, George.

The Op-Ed writer made some good points. Much of the federal response was great, especially from the Coast Guard. This was a massive undertaking that no other nation could have accomplished.

Much of the criticism has also been partisan anti-Bush cheap shots, but if the Bush administration was satisfied with FEMA's response Brown would still be in charge.

[SomethingClever]

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We do not yet have teleporter or replicator technology like you saw on 'Star Trek' in college between hookah hits and waiting to pick up your worthless communications degree while the grown-ups actually engaged in the recovery effort were studying engineering.


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Haha, this quote is clearly fabricated.