I was berated for being a fish on this one

NYCNative · #1 10-04-2005, 11:18 AM

The table as a whole was very tight. Villain specifically may as well been the leader - 14% VP$IP PFR only 3% although he did like the checkraise. Lots of unraised pots and raised pots had rarely more than three people seeing the flop.

Since it was tight I was playing more speculative hands with position (i.e. lower suited connectors, one-gappers, unsuited connectors, weakish aces). I won a few hands with favorable flops and I chased a few people away on misses with position betting. Thus far I hadn't shown much and my numbers for the session were my usual LAG/TAG hybrid.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) converter

MP1 ($66.45)
MP2 ($105)
Hero ($112.65)
Button ($59.10)
SB ($105.85)
BB ($162.85)
UTG ($78.90)
UTG+1 ($93.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $2.5, Hero calls $2.50.

Turn: ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $7.5, Hero calls $7.50.

River: ($22.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $22.5, Hero raises to $45, BB folds.

Final Pot: $90

After the pot, he betared me, calling me a fish repeatedly. He even did a little ASCII-art fish in the chat box. I was honored and amused! He also correctly surmised my holdings. So is playing like this sometimes okay in a "mixing it up" way when I think that I can buy pots down the road? Or am I a luckbag fish?

amoeba · #2 10-04-2005, 11:21 AM

raise the flop and try to get it all in then.

aces_full · #3 10-04-2005, 11:23 AM

Borderline fishy, but not horrible. I would have either raised PF or on the flop.

4_2_it · #4 10-04-2005, 11:26 AM

Raise this flop, you are the favorite against any of villain's likely holdings.

NYCNative · #5 10-04-2005, 11:33 AM

Wait! It wasn't a 67 of Clubs. The 6 was a spade! So i wasn't on a straight-flush draw, only open-eneded.

swolfe · #6 10-04-2005, 11:34 AM

open limping in the CO is a fish move

#7 10-04-2005, 01:30 PM

I don't mind calling the flop, but without the FD, I fold the turn. You only have six clean outs to the straigth, and an 8 doesn't even give you the nuts. Also, at a tight table, you're not getting the implied odds to chase someone down like this. If you had the OESD and the FD, I would like it.

After all, the reason you're playing these hands is b/c the table is tight and you think you can buy pots after the flop from them and you might hit the flop big with a disguised monster. But a tight table will not give you the odds necessary to keep calling PSBs all the way down. Right?

mosuavea · #8 10-04-2005, 01:32 PM

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open limping in the CO is a fish move

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Sifmole · #9 10-04-2005, 01:43 PM

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Wait! It wasn't a 67 of Clubs. The 6 was a spade! So i wasn't on a straight-flush draw, only open-eneded.

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Then yes, you are just a lucksack fish. You will do well on Party.

amoeba · #10 10-04-2005, 01:47 PM

how much fold equity do you think you have if you bluff a club river?

because you can't have that good of implied odds since you probably won't get paid off with 2 of those 8 outs you have.