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Old 11-19-2005, 12:30 PM
kitaristi0 kitaristi0 is offline
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Default AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

You pick up AA in MP and raise. BB calls. No read on BB.

Flop comes 55Tr. BB leads into you with a bet (1/2 pot to pot).

Previously in this spot I would always raise in this spot. The more I think about it, raising here seems dead wrong. This is clearly a WA/WB situation. We know that raising in WA/WB situations is wrong.

However, I see tons of posts here with situations like the one detailed above, where most people advocate raising. Is my reasoning that this is a WA/WB situation flawed in some way, and thus is raising in this spot actually the correct play?

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Old 11-19-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

A call is good in this spot.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

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A call is good in this spot.

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Because you're WA/WB or for deception reasons?
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

I'm gonna slightly hijack my own thread here.

Same situation as above, except this time flop comes 444. This is another WA/WB situation, except this time you're way more likely to be WA than WB. How do you play this kind of situation?
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

I agree that calling is best. Why raise here?

Unless I am against a maniac/calling station/huge donk I see no reason to raise this flop. Villan will fold all hands we beat and call with any hand that beats us (WA/WB).

Pot control is vital for 1 pair hands as well. This hand has showdown value.

Against a player who will go to the felt with a lone 10 here, I don't mind raising. But against a normal player, I think call is my standard.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

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A call is good in this spot.

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Because you're WA/WB or for deception reasons?

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Both, and pot control. Though I guess that's sorta included in WA/WB.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

If the flop comes 444 I'm value betting on all streets.

If the flop comes 55T I'm value betting all streets

If the flop comes 2KK then I'm going to be a lot more carefull

All this assumes normal preflop action with AA although its a little general.
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Old 11-19-2005, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

Ok so call on the flop, I see that as being fine. But how to aproach the turn and river when the it is potted, overbetted or even pushes on any of the remaining streets? What now?


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Old 11-19-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

Calling all the way down is the way to go here if the opportunity presents itself. If villian decides to put in a crazy bet...I honestly can't see folding here, we're only beat by a 5 or TT...

I'd be more interested to know what to do if villian checks the turn. Do we check to induce a bluff on the river or do we bet?
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: AA on xyy board (WA/WB?)

You pick up AA in MP and raise. BB calls. No read on BB.

Flop comes 55Tr. BB leads into you with a bet (1/2 pot to pot). You call.

Turn is a 2, making the board 55T2r. What do you do if

a) Villain bets again.
b) Villain checks.

My line would be a) call, and b) check behind.
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