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Old 12-30-2005, 12:38 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero...

This was a confusing hand.

Krishan
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:42 PM
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I'm 3-betting and fairly happily calling a cap.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:47 PM
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I'm 3-betting and fairly happily calling a cap.

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PF is meh. You can probably pick a better spot then 92s. But it is something I do from time to time to though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:59 PM
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I'm 3-betting and fairly happily calling a cap.

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I was originally all for this thinking that many Ax hands will think they have you beat. On top of that, many Ax hands might open from the SB. I want to 3-bet so badly, but I could see myself losing to JJ and AA if villain caps and I'm surely not folding.

This seemed so straight forward, but now I think I feel as confused as OP as what should be the best line.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:36 PM
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I was originally all for this thinking that many Ax hands will think they have you beat. On top of that, many Ax hands might open from the SB. I want to 3-bet so badly, but I could see myself losing to JJ and AA if villain caps and I'm surely not folding.

This seemed so straight forward, but now I think I feel as confused as OP as what should be the best line.

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There are a lot more combos of Ax hands than JJ or AA.

I 3-bet the monkey. Call a cap.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:08 PM
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I was originally all for this thinking that many Ax hands will think they have you beat. On top of that, many Ax hands might open from the SB. I want to 3-bet so badly, but I could see myself losing to JJ and AA if villain caps and I'm surely not folding.

This seemed so straight forward, but now I think I feel as confused as OP as what should be the best line.

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There are a lot more combos of Ax hands than JJ or AA.

I 3-bet the monkey. Call a cap.

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Does hand reading support Ax?

Krishan
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:27 PM
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I was originally all for this thinking that many Ax hands will think they have you beat. On top of that, many Ax hands might open from the SB. I want to 3-bet so badly, but I could see myself losing to JJ and AA if villain caps and I'm surely not folding.

This seemed so straight forward, but now I think I feel as confused as OP as what should be the best line.

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There are a lot more combos of Ax hands than JJ or AA.

I 3-bet the monkey. Call a cap.

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Does hand reading support Ax?

Krishan

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Hand reading really doesn't support much right now. You provided no reads, and it's very possible that a player could play AK etc. this way trying to extract the maximum from a hand like K5 (which would often confusedly call the river), etc. His handrange is wide enough here that you're ahead 66% at the least, I'd be guessing.

I also fold this preflop.

Rob
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:36 PM
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I was originally all for this thinking that many Ax hands will think they have you beat. On top of that, many Ax hands might open from the SB. I want to 3-bet so badly, but I could see myself losing to JJ and AA if villain caps and I'm surely not folding.

This seemed so straight forward, but now I think I feel as confused as OP as what should be the best line.

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There are a lot more combos of Ax hands than JJ or AA.

I 3-bet the monkey. Call a cap.

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Does hand reading support Ax?

Krishan

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Hand reading really doesn't support much right now. You provided no reads, and it's very possible that a player could play AK etc. this way trying to extract the maximum from a hand like K5 (which would often confusedly call the river), etc. His handrange is wide enough here that you're ahead 66% at the least, I'd be guessing.

I also fold this preflop.

Rob

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Well, I guess I don't think a pair of aces will check this turn that often. And I don't think a pair of aces (other than AK,AJ) will checkraise the river. And that's assuming those hands check the turn.

It's just a strange hand that if I thought through all the way I could justify just calling the river cr. Maybe not.

Krishan
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:37 PM
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I was originally all for this thinking that many Ax hands will think they have you beat. On top of that, many Ax hands might open from the SB. I want to 3-bet so badly, but I could see myself losing to JJ and AA if villain caps and I'm surely not folding.

This seemed so straight forward, but now I think I feel as confused as OP as what should be the best line.

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There are a lot more combos of Ax hands than JJ or AA.

I 3-bet the monkey. Call a cap.

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Does hand reading support Ax?

Krishan

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Hand reading really doesn't support much right now. You provided no reads, and it's very possible that a player could play AK etc. this way trying to extract the maximum from a hand like K5 (which would often confusedly call the river), etc. His handrange is wide enough here that you're ahead 66% at the least, I'd be guessing.

I also fold this preflop.

Rob

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Well, I guess I don't think a pair of aces will check this turn that often. And I don't think a pair of aces (other than AK,AJ) will checkraise the river. And that's assuming those hands check the turn.

It's just a strange hand that if I thought through all the way I could justify just calling the river cr. Maybe not.

Krishan

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If AK wouldn't check this river, would JJ?
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:39 PM
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If AK wouldn't check this river, would JJ?

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They both would check the river. But I'm discounting AK based on the turn. I do think AK is a possible holding for Villian.

Krishan
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