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Old 12-27-2005, 08:12 PM
Yerma Yerma is offline
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Default Party 0.5-1: I botched the river, now what?

Playing some micro-limit Party.

Here are the notes I had taken on the villain:

Kxo utg,A9o utg,limps heavy (AKo),overdefends (A3o SB)
VALUE BET THIS MAN
calls down w/bp+gk on super-coordinated board>


The first line are things I saw him do preflop. The all-caps line is a directive to myself regarding what to do about this player. The last line is the one out of the ordinary thing I saw him do postflop.

Here is the hand:
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

River: (10 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, SB folds, Hero ???

Now what? And would you bet the river in the first place?

Final Pot: 14 BB
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:24 PM
Black Peter Black Peter is offline
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Default Re: Party 0.5-1: I botched the river, now what?

UTG is calling two bets with a draw? Could be...

I would probably have c/c the river. Since you bet, you have to call down with that pot.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Party 0.5-1: I botched the river, now what?

Call it. You've seen him draw down with Kxo before and you know he plays too wide a range of hands. He's probably sitting on the flush or straight, but he may just as well have hit a pair of Kings or even two smaller pairs like KQ. That's a pretty ugly river. It's easy to forget about UTG behind you and go after the SB when he checks to you on the river.
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:11 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: Party 0.5-1: I botched the river, now what?

Bet the river. Call the raise.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:31 PM
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Grunch-

Good note taking. I have to improve upon mine.

I think you played it fine. I would call the river against this villain.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:58 AM
David04 David04 is offline
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Default Re: Party 0.5-1: I botched the river, now what?

This is a big pot, you can't possibly fold for one bet. The river bet is fine. It looks like UTG caught his flush, but he could be one of those players who love to bluff at scare cards. You only have to be good ~8% of the time for this call to be profitable.
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:42 AM
SmileyPSU SmileyPSU is offline
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Default Re: Party 0.5-1: I botched the river, now what?

I'd bet the river and call the raise. It says right in your notes to value bet this guy. When he raises you it looks like you're behind but you have to call given the pot size.

I think that it is correct to bet that river. I think it will cost you more over time by slowing down everytime a scare card comes on the river than it will those odd times you get caught for two bets on the end.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:25 AM
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He had K2o, I called his raise and MHIG.

When I bet the river, my plan was to fold if raised. When it actually happened though, I took a look at my note that he calls down w/bottom pair + good kicker on coordinated boards and decided there was some small chance he had 'only' 2 pairs. He really did nearly lift me off of my hand though, and I'm getting a variety of opinions on what I should have done on the river. So, I still don't feel like I know what I should have done. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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