Tough Turn Decision

[MLG]

I think folding preflop here is not good at all.

[bruce]

On the turn he wasn't OOP.

Bruce

[-Oz-]

My mistake Bruce, you are correct. That does change things a little. Does it change a fold into a call? Giving the SB credit for trip 8's, how many outs do we have? 8, 4, or 0. I still think calling the check-raise on the turn and calling a jam on the river if the str8 gets there is a pretty marginal play. Call me weak-tight, but I still think I fold after the check-raise for the same reasons already cited.

With position, I would forgo the semi-bluff bet on the turn, because that is how I'd normally play a big pair (which is the hand that's been represented up to this point). Get to the river for free and reevaluate the action should the str8 get there. Given the results, I suspect that line would have won the same amount that the hero's line did, but at much reduced risk.

-Oz-

[bruce]

I agree. This was a poor turn bet. Too great a chance that
hero is drawing skinny. Why bet when you can see a free turn card and the likelyhood of semibluffing the turn is low?

Bruce

[reecelights]

You already semi-bluffed the flop and got called. Take the free card.

You are now faced with calling (albeit with 5-1 odds) and having invested nearly half your stack on a play agianst players who are still hyped up from rebuy time and calling with any pair. I think you have to fold to the re-raise; you do this all the time in limit even with odds to call, do you not?