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Old 11-22-2005, 02:26 PM
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Default Deep in Stars 500K.

I dont have alot of experience deep into tournys, so not sure about this.

45 left and this is the first hand after being moved to a new table. So I have no image or any reads.

8000/16000 800 ante
Im in BB with 141,116
Viilian is MP with 299,032

villian opens for 48,000 folded to me I have 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Whats my move? Is this a no brainer.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

i'd assume this is a push.

was he a) one of the biggest stacks in the tournament b) one of the biggest stacks at your table?

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Old 11-22-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

Push.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

Push. There's good chance you are in a race situation. With 9bb's behind after posting, you need to make a move.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

stop n go. call preflop, push any flop.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

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stop n go. call preflop, push any flop.

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I like this a lot too.....but absent reads, I think I'd tend to push sooner rather than later.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

Thats a play I need to use more, but not sure what situations a stop n go works best. say flop comes with 2 or 3 broadway cards, still push. Also I played highschool football with Eli. He's living up to all the hype.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

I dont like this idea. I think you are too deep for it. Too good a chance he had a hand like QT and will not call your all in before the flop. Also a good chance that when you stop and go villain wont fold an ace high hand like AK or AQ even if he bricks the flop. I feel like if you even have an inkling of FE you should push, and here I feel like you have significant FE.

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Old 11-22-2005, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

the idea of a stop n go is you push ANY flop. you have no idea what he has preflop, you just know your about 50/50 against his range. So by calling and pushing the flop you sometimes get better hands to fold (say 1010 on a AQ4 flop) and you sometimes shut overcards out, Like QJ and 823 flop. Of course sometimes you run into 1010 on the 823 flop, or QJ on the J94 flop, but those hands were gonna call you preflop anyway. You use the stop n go, when the other player will call your preflop push no matter what and you have a small/medium pocket pair.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Deep in Stars 500K.

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you just know your about 50/50 against his range.

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not to nitpick but i think its closer to 60/40
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