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Old 08-07-2005, 12:51 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

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If I had the nut flush there is no way I would check this river.

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Even after an unknows $16 player *raised* the flop and turn?

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I would throw out what looks like a blocking bet hoping for him to do it again. I would never check.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:15 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

A check here is the best line.

You've played this hand pretty strong, villain has to know you have a strong hand. There's an outside chance villain will call a bet if he has KT, otherwise he's folding. And you're only reraised if you're beat (well, that's not true, it's tough to assume our opponents aren't donkeys.)

Anyway, I think there is some showdown value here as well. Checking this shows your opponents you bet your hands strong. But once again, we're assuming these donkeys pay attention. On these low level tables, it's difficult to adjust to what is the "correct" play. But I think checking is the line you should get used to making as you move up in limits.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

I think most players would check raise this river with the nut flush. It's weird that villian came out betting the turn after being raised on the flop, but I still would try and get money in here. If I lose flush over flush I consider it like losing set over set. Thats poker.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

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If I lose flush over flush I consider it like losing set over set. Thats poker.

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Flush over flush is a lot easier to identify and prevent than set over set.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

I think checking is fine, but I don't think most opponents play the turn and river the way he did with a better flush.

Also, at a lower buyin you have a pretty fair chance of getting a lot more of his chips if he has a straight or a lower flush or even 2-pair. Still, it's risky.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:36 PM
Jay36489 Jay36489 is offline
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

Well its not the exact same thing, no. But its very unlikely he has two hearts, much less two hearts, one bigger then yours( only two left). His leading turn bet makes me think he doesn't want to give you another heart on a free card. He payed off both of your raises before, so I think he calls a small value bet with a worse hand.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

I've played a lot of these $16 turbos and I'm betting here.

His small bets are often a big heart trying to price himself in. So he'll probably fold if you bet, but two pair/straight/AQx will pay off.

I'd bet 3 or 400.
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Old 08-07-2005, 02:16 PM
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I think most players would check raise this river with the nut flush.

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Not me, that's for sure. Villain's line is scary and many opponents will check that river after the way the hand has played out. (Even someone with a non-nut flush such as the OP.)

But since I know that many other players would try to C/R the river with the nuts, I agree that Durron should check the river.
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Old 08-07-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default Bump....results???? n/m

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Old 08-07-2005, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Easy river value bet?

I'm thinking you should check or push. I prefer checking...I think. I don't think you should bet small.
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