1st hand - Flop decision with AK

[adanthar]

Because the chance that he folds now is greater than the chance he won't shove the rest of it on any turn with Ax.

Also, you like overcalls.

[Meatmaw]

For those of you others who said 'push because he likely doesn't have 2pair or trips', why would you not raise and encourage him to call you at bad odds if you feel you have the best hand? Say, reraise to 400-500 then push on the turn (and risk giving him a correct call on the turn) rather than risk giving him a correct fold on the flop?

[RhitTaker]

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Because the chance that he folds now is greater than the chance he won't shove the rest of it on any turn with Ax.


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That's an argument AGAINST pushing, right?

[adanthar]

Yes.

[lastchance]

Yupz, definitely have to retract my original thought. SCfugi, Rhittaker, and Adanthar are right. Definitely good to just call here, and get your chips in on the turn.

[SCfuji]

my thoughts come from those that shillx installed into my brain

[pokerlaw]

pushes

[pokerlaw]

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Yes.

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true. that is prob the better way to play it. didn't read your post before my first one...(FWIW, if he slightly hesitated before his bet, then i am much more likely to flat call and push on the turn bet or bet at the turn check. if he quickly bet, then i prob push QUICKLY, cause he'll prob call)

[Shillx]

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my thoughts come from those that shillx installed into my brain

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All the money is going in on this hand. It makes a lot more sense to make him do the betting since he won't throw away a better hand to a flop all-in, but he might get greedy and make a big pot commiting or all-in bet on 4th with Ax or Jx. By making a big reraise now all you do is give him a chance to get away from a worse hand. This is commonly how you should play these hands since the $$$ is going in no matter what if he has AQ or AJ, but by just calling, you get those extra chips those times he keeps bluffing at the pot (or betting with <= 3 outs).

Brad

Who the hell is Shillx anyway? I hear that he got a new Party handle [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

[Isura]

Good discussion guys.
One point nobody mentioned yet is the presence of the 2 players behind me. I guess that doesn't change the situation much in this case, but what about when the flop is 2-suited? I'll post the results later tonight.