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Old 11-28-2005, 02:06 AM
RiverFenix RiverFenix is offline
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Default Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

Villian is smart and has been inactive for the last few orbits, ~35/15/3. We havent been directly involved in any hands.
I see this as WA/WB, but still feel like it is way too passive for my liking. How do you play this board/opponent?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP ($671.95)
CO ($217.75)
Hero ($242.80)
SB ($248.95)
BB ($200)
UTG ($166)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $18.

Flop: ($67) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($67) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

River: ($167) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $167
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:11 AM
Allinlife Allinlife is offline
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

36$ pf..near-minraise 30$ sucks

I like the check
I like the call too
Bet 80~100 on river, fold to c-r
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:16 AM
RiverFenix RiverFenix is offline
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

I didnt want it to be &gt;$30 back to PFR, i think PF is fine.
What hand calls a river bet here?
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

i think u can sneak a vb in on the river, something like 1/2 to 2/3 pot for work...
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

[b] what hand calls a river bet here?[b]
His range is pretty limited i think
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:25 AM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

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what hand calls a river bet here?

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AK, AQ, KQ, maybe smaller PPs.

u r probably right that he has a small range to call bets, but i think he probably has a Q or a hand that he'd like to show down that doesnt include a J.
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

This razor thin value bet mentality is dangerous when you get into games with players capable of figuring out what you are doing and then pounding you with a big raise.

Alternatively they can check raise you for value on the river abusively.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

Your line seems fine, what range do you put he on at this level?
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

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i think u can sneak a vb in on the river, something like 1/2 to 2/3 pot for work...

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hell no
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Never felt so passive with AA on all streets, 200nl

Why would a jack or a full house value bet the turn then go for a check raise against someone who has not shown any aggression in this hand? AK could've been taking a shot after you showed weakness on the flop or AQ could've missed a check raise or maybe a caution KQ...I think all those hands are likely and could call a small river bet.
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