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Old 12-30-2005, 10:22 PM
KramerTM KramerTM is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 situation, call down, raise flop, fold?

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By open limp do you mean when you call with only the blinds involved, or just calling the BB in general? Say UTG limps and you are in button, is it bad to limp a hand like j10 there?

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Open limp means to be the first one to voluntarily put money in the pot (and do so by limping, not raising).

JTs I'd limp in that case, but JTo... eh, depends on my control of the table. I'd raise it if UTG was someone I wanted to isolate.
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:24 PM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 situation, call down, raise flop, fold?

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Post flop, I prefer a flop-raise, check behind on turn, and call on river. You'll save a SB most of the time this way.

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Yea sometimes you can save one small bet. Sometimes you get 3bet by A2 or TK and fold the best hand (TK almost always bluffs the river if it misses by the way). Sometimes you cause a hand like 57 to fold when it would have bet the turn and maybe even the river. Sometimes you end up folding your 5 outer and forfeit equity in the pot. Sometimes he donks the turn or river.

That saved small bet isn't looking so nice anymore, is it?

Also, by checking the turn you give a free card to any draws. Betting the turn and checking the river is significantly better.
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 situation, call down, raise flop, fold?

If you are going to play J10, raise it. If you miss the flop and are in position you get to see the turn for free. There are very few times when open limping in a SH game is going to be a good move.
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