(Bluff)raise this river?

[Tyler Durden]

From the Super Tuesday. BB is 100. I have 1600. Villain has 3900.

He minraises UTG. His play has been reasonable but he's been liming a lot, once he openlimped w/ J7s in EP.

I have J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in EMP and coldcall. Heads up w/ 550 in the pot.

K66 two[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I check behind.

Turn 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. He bets 100 and I call.

River is an offsuit 8. He bets 100 and I.....?

Thoughts appreciated.

[curtains]

I wouldn't raise. I dont trust anyone on PartyPoker to fold a hand better than JJ on this river.

[pokerraja]

I just call. No need to get fancy this early against a random player.

[z32fanatic]

I'm not even sure it's a bluff as I think you're ahead. I think he may have like 77 or 99 but I think those hands fold to the raise on the river. I think a K calls almost any raise here considering how loose you said he was. I think the only hand that folds that you are losing to is QQ, and no hands that you can beat will call. I think a raise would get the villain to fold but I don't think you need him to as you are probably ahead here. I don't think this is a great spot for a raise but I think it would drag the pot.

[Firefly]

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I wouldn't raise. I dont trust anyone on PartyPoker to fold a hand better than JJ on this river.

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Well you have to call on pot odds alone.. the bets he is putting out seem real weak to have a king or a flush.. even if you are beat, you just call and see what happens...

[MLG]

just call, and take the pot sometimes. Also, I push preflop.

[Tyler Durden]

I flatcalled preflop b/c I feared that I was up against a real hand here, since this guy had been limping a lot but rarely raising. Also he minraised UTG, I wanted to use my position later on in the hand so that's also why I just called.

When he bets the min on the turn, looks like he wants a cheap showdown. I thought I might have him beat on the river but I said to my friend who was sweating the hand "would he fold QQ if I raise here?"

Anyway, I just called and he had red QQ. Fun to know my flush draw was no good.

Anyone think he would have folded the QQ if I had raised? I don't think he'd put me on a King but perhaps the flush? I dunno.

TIA.

[colson10]

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just call, and take the pot sometimes. Also, I push preflop.

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I agree. If I found myself in this situation at the river, raising would never cross my mind.

colson10

[MLG]

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Anyone think he would have folded the QQ if I had raised?

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asking that question is pretty results oriented, since its the only hand that fits into the category of better hand he might fold. even if he would fold QQ that doesnt necessarily make raising right.