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Old 08-28-2005, 07:47 AM
RydenStoompala RydenStoompala is offline
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Default Re: Crushing live 2/4 tables

"crushing" live 2/4?

Ha ha. Cute.

I layed a bruising on a craps table once. I got better odds than you're getting playing real hands at 2-4.
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Old 08-28-2005, 04:50 PM
AKQJ10 AKQJ10 is offline
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Default Re: Crushing live 2/4 tables

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What is the rake structure like? If they're taking a drop each and every hand. This can make it next to impossible to beat the game in my opinion. Be selective with the posters you listen to in this respect. There are so many people playing poker, there are certainly some who buck the odds. Don't expect to be one of the lucky ones.

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Let me point out that my argument is theoretical, not empirical. I could make an empirical argument -- I'm +127 big blinds, gross of toke, in 116 hours of Foxwoods $2/4 despite the fact that I've literally been learning hold 'em during that time. But that's a foolish argument because it's a tiny sample, and you're right -- no one should care what my results are.

However, if 8 people are seeing each $2/4 flop and 6 are seeing the flop at $4/8, the rake is not the issue at the lower limit. It just isn't. Max rake is $4 per pot, so two extra limpers are enough to have you effectively playing rake-free.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: Crushing live 2/4 tables

Should you count the jackpot drop as part of the rake? In most places, for every dollar you put into that box, you have an EV of one dollar coming out of that box.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:25 PM
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Should you count the jackpot drop as part of the rake? In most places, for every dollar you put into that box, you have an EV of one dollar coming out of that box.

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Actually your ROI on that dollar is somewhere around 50 cents if it's a bad beat jackpot, more if it's a smaller high hand one. This is due to admin fees, a high tax rate on the money, and the dealer tip.
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Crushing live 2/4 tables

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For more totally helpful hints about 2/4 check out this informative article by a poker genius on ESPN.com

NITPATROL: NITPATROL

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That guy is a monster jerkoff. I love how he qualifies why he's only playing 2/4 too.

Consider this thread bumped lol
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Old 08-29-2005, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: \"Crushing\" live 2/4 tables

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For more totally helpful hints about 2/4 check out this informative article by a poker genius on ESPN.com

NITPATROL: NITPATROL

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That guy is a monster jerkoff. I love how he qualifies why he's only playing 2/4 too.

Consider this thread bumped lol

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I would like to offically take credit now for both:
A. Hijacking the heck outta this thread and
B. Keeping it on the front page forever

I'm only proud because I can expose the utter moranity of the guy in this ESPN article. Please, to all Foxwoods players: if you see this guy DO annoy him until he drops more change by hitting every one of his top ten hotbutton Issues. Especially:
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6. Speed.
The game actually moved quite quickly. The speed at which these hands were played was very apparent to me. It was another adjustment. Players didn't pause for more than two seconds before deciding what to do. It was clear that they were playing their own cards, rather than their position or the other players at the table. The best play in poker is to put the other players at a decision for their chips. It almost seemed like this play was taken away because of the nature of the limit game.


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Seriously, could it be a joke? It's so artful in its awfulness, it might have been titled "Inside the Poseur Mind."

OK, that's all, last bump.
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