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12-27-2005, 07:01 AM
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Re: At what point will conservatives admit Bush has gone too far?
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[ QUOTE ] (i.e. how many know that CIA are able to turn on the microphone on whatever cellular phone they would like to, and thus bug the room, at any time without the user noticing?) [/ QUOTE ] How do you know this to be true, and have you any good links for us? [/ QUOTE ] I don't have any good links, but I know it is possible. Look upon your cellular phone as a centrally controlled client, because that is what it really is. When you answer a phone call you basically send a signal to the central server cluster to open a channel through the cellular phone network. The process instructs your phone to turn on the microphone among other things. Elements of this process can be used to turn the microphone on without activating i.e. the loudspeaker or giving a ring signal. To avoid it, you need to disconnect the battery. EDIT: Just to clarify, I am speaking of GSM-phones. 
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12-27-2005, 02:49 PM
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Re: At what point will conservatives admit Bush has gone too far?
Because they have already done it to bust a strip club owner trying to get liquor licenses (now there is a 9/11 National Security threat!) by reverse engineering his on-board navigation system in his car and listening to conversations between him and his lawyer inside his car (forget about attorney client relationship also).
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12-27-2005, 04:01 PM
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Re: At what point will conservatives admit Bush has gone too far?
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Because they have already done it to bust a strip club owner trying to get liquor licenses (now there is a 9/11 National Security threat!) by reverse engineering his on-board navigation system in his car and listening to conversations between him and his lawyer inside his car (forget about attorney client relationship also). [/ QUOTE ] I recall reading some news story along those lines but forget details. However that seems to be OnStar not cell phones, and law enforcement nor CIA. I'm not saying Arnfinn is wrong; I'm not yet convinced he's completely right either.
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12-27-2005, 04:03 PM
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Re: At what point will conservatives admit Bush has gone too far?
Okay, you are right. They can do it with the cell phone technology in an on-board naviagtion system, but can't do it with a regular cell phone.
Oh, yeah. And only "law enforcement" could do it, the CIA wouldn't know how. Hahahahaha! Are you really that stupid?
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12-27-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: At what point will conservatives admit Bush has gone too far?
MMMMMMM,
wanted to find a link for you and searched through all the mobile systems manufacturers. But then I decided to check Wikipedia [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], and there was a link there which explains why it is possible (without mentioning it). Look at this chart and remember that the initial channel request and number sending etc. coming from the phone can be manipulated (somebody else representing the unit), and thus the call can be established without the subscriber's knowledge. Link It contains however: [ QUOTE ] At this point, the mobile phone displays a message on the screen to indicate that call setup is being attempted. [/ QUOTE ] I know they have a workaround, but I am not totally sure how (if they skip this part of the procedure or alters the phone's software).
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12-27-2005, 10:01 AM
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Re: At what point will conservatives admit Bush has gone too far?
When he tries to appoint his White House Counsel to the SCOTUS......
Oh wait, that already happened.
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