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Old 08-30-2005, 12:55 PM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Call or cap, I'm inclined to cap. You have a freaking monster for the situation if those guys are as you say they are.

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unfortunately, the read he provided, imo is wrong.

gus plays a great game of limit holdem now and is, if anything, too tight.

Barron

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I never got that memo. The last few times I played with him he was real loose and real aggro, but that was probably three weeks ago or so. Do you agree it would be wrong to fold in that spot if he had the same range he would have had in the Stars games when he first started playing, or are you still folding here?
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:14 PM
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Call or cap, I'm inclined to cap. You have a freaking monster for the situation if those guys are as you say they are.

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unfortunately, the read he provided, imo is wrong.

gus plays a great game of limit holdem now and is, if anything, too tight.

Barron

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I never got that memo. The last few times I played with him he was real loose and real aggro, but that was probably three weeks ago or so. Do you agree it would be wrong to fold in that spot if he had the same range he would have had in the Stars games when he first started playing, or are you still folding here?

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I'm inclined to play anyway, but I'm a lag,
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:25 PM
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he is no longer laggy by any means. against many buttons, ATo is showdown bound HU. against him, not so much...anymore.

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He's still open raising from the button, though.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:32 PM
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ive seen him make near expert plays.

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lol, thanks for the eval, champ.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:41 PM
pheasant tail (no 18) pheasant tail (no 18) is offline
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Mike,

Could you explain to me why it matters whether if was short handed or not?

Thanks, PT
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:44 PM
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can i ask what 30/20/2 means?? what does each number represent

is 18/11/2.5 the perfect player??
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:48 PM
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Mike,

Could you explain to me why it matters whether if was short handed or not?

Thanks, PT

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If the game was shorthanded, more aggressive play is even more the norm. So Gus' range of stealing hands is bigger in a SH game.
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:57 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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If the game was shorthanded, more aggressive play is even more the norm. So Gus' range of stealing hands is bigger in a SH game.

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This prevailing wisdom has always been interesting to me, and I think it's wrong. That doesn't mean that people don't behave more aggressively short in this situation.

I'd be capping this in either situation, BTW.
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:02 PM
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If the game was shorthanded, more aggressive play is even more the norm. So Gus' range of stealing hands is bigger in a SH game.

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This prevailing wisdom has always been interesting to me, and I think it's wrong. That doesn't mean that people don't behave more aggressively short in this situation.

I'd be capping this in either situation, BTW.

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are you saying the wisdom that one should steal from the button more aggressively playing SH is wrong, or the wisdom that people believe others do steal more aggressively SH is wrong? (i think that makes sense....)
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Old 08-30-2005, 05:29 PM
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VPIP/PFR/AF


See here for info on each.

section 3 about stats
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