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Old 10-24-2005, 06:12 PM
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Limit makes me gag. This is a bad thing.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:41 PM
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You know, you don't always have to hit the garbage hands to win, don't you?

I made this play at Foxwoods 10/20 against a tough player who is not easily bluffed. Everyone calls him Judge because he's a retired judge. He raised and I 3 bet with 78s. The flop came AAQ and he checked to me and I bet and he called. The turn was a 3 and he checked and I got stubborn and kept up the charade and bet and he called again.

The River was another Q and he checked again and I was sick to my stomach knowing that my only chance to win was to waste another $20 so I bet the River and he disgustedly flashed JJ to his friend and sarcastically said "nice board for JJ" and to me "were you full?" and of course I nodded yes.

Not telling anyone anything new here but deception is a part of the game.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:55 PM
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Not telling anyone anything new here but deception is a part of the game.

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I know that you know it at least [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I was leading a limit tourney feeling I was the clearly best player until I was moved to a table where this damned Toro-guy [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img], sat two seats left to me and literally outplayed me putting me on semi-tilt. I felt totally confused as to which hands you had, all the time.
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:46 PM
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You know, you don't always have to hit the garbage hands to win, don't you?
On Party in Limit Hold em you most certainly do.
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:58 PM
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HI! PEOPLE HAVE TWO REACTIONS TO YOUR BAD BEAT POSTS:

1. THEY DON'T CARE.

2. THEY ARE GLAD IT HAPPENED.

BETGO, DID YOU HONESTLY THINK THERE WAS SOME VALUE TO THIS BAD BEAT POST?

-BBP
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:00 PM
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I made a very similar play in a home game last week. But my opponent had KK and I got paid off even better.

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DELIVERING BAD BEATS IS NOT A "PLAY", IT IS POOR POKER.

THANK YOU! COME AGAIN!
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:30 PM
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You know, you don't always have to hit the garbage hands to win, don't you?
On Party in Limit Hold em you most certainly do.

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Maybe in 50/$1, but not necessarily in a tournament, although the play was pretty loose at this point and this is only a $50 MTT. Getting two players to fold, though would not be easy and would require come more chips.

I think villain's checking the flop from the was bad. Having capped preflop, I wan't going to fold to one bet. I think he would be better off building the pot for various reasons.

He did create maximum deception. With the flop check and the raises on the turn and river, I was putting him on AA, AK, or AQ.

As for raise, since he is calling anyway, I don't think a call is that clear with 54s on the button with a 3rd position raise and CO call.

I think the reraise with 54s would have been better against one player. Against two players, he is getting better implied odds to hit something, but your chances to steal the pot are much smaller.

Sklansky in HPFAP recommends throwing in early position raises with suited connectors if your early position raises are getting too much respect. In a lot of limit holdem games, an UTG raise is assumed to be AK or QQ-AA and often picks up the blinds or gets called by the BB, who folds on the flop. I find that kind of play can create a lot of deception.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:33 PM
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3betting 45s to get HU is acceptable, but still pretty bad. With a raise and a call, it is just plain chip-spewing.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:35 PM
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HI! PEOPLE HAVE TWO REACTIONS TO YOUR BAD BEAT POSTS:

1. THEY DON'T CARE.

2. THEY ARE GLAD IT HAPPENED.

BETGO, DID YOU HONESTLY THINK THERE WAS SOME VALUE TO THIS BAD BEAT POST?

-BBP

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Who gave you your badge?

I don't think it is that much of a bad beat. AKo is only 3-2 against 54s and TPTK is not a lock on the turn or river.

I just posted it because I thought it was amusing. However, it has created a lot of interesting discussion about my opponent's play.
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:12 PM
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3betting 45s to get HU is acceptable, but still pretty bad. With a raise and a call, it is just plain chip-spewing.

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there must be something to be said for context: the big blind is T20. the button begins the hand with T1670. the "chip spewing" 3-bet cost him a little more than 1% of his stack.
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