Simple 2-7 trp draw question

[Gabe]

with a 7 high straight is the 6 usually the correct card to toss for the last draw?

[BluffTHIS!]

Even though the 6 is the trouble card for 2-7 lowball, you should toss the 7 because you may already be against a good 7 which you most likely can't outdraw (you need 1 perfect card, a deuce, to make a 7) or more likely a made 8 or 9 which may well be good if you get either one of those yourself by having a 96 or 86 when they have a fatter one themselves (even a T may be good here since they would stand on that headsup with you drawing). If you toss the 6 and make an 87 or 97 it has more ways not to be good.

If you do make an 8,9 or T you should just check or call if bet into but could raise with an 86 against a loose player perhaps whom you know would bet an 87 headsup.

[BluffTHIS!]

I should have added that as far as calling with a T, 9 or 8 will depend on whether the other player stood pat after the 1st or second draw and how tight he is, plus how many players took the first draw (the more on the first draw the smoother a tight player draws).

[Chris Daddy Cool]

i agree with bluff here. by tossing the 6 you are still drawing to a perfect decue. so you want to work your way from the bottom up, not picking form the middle because 3-4-5-6-x will be able to beat more hands than 3-4-5-7-x, especially if your opponent is standing pat on a rough 87, 97, or even up to J7 if he realizes a J will beat any draw HU on the last draw.

my general default would be to call a bet if i hit a 8,9, or T, and sometimes depending on how loose he is or if he has a history of snowing, a J.

[Phat Mack]

with a 7 high straight is the 6 usually the correct card to toss for the last draw?

Generally speaking, yes, you should toss the 6. Doing so gives you four extra cards to hit to make a hand.

Depending on betting format, position, drawing round and opponents, there may be cases where an argument could be made for tossing the 7. But as another general rule, if you're in such a situation, you've misplayed the hand on an earlier round. JMO

Mack

[Beavis68]

I agree, you dont really want to be drawing with concecutive cards, toss the 6.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

i don't agree with this thinking, as you're drawing to a perfect deuce anyways when you toss the 6. you're much more likely to win with 96 than 97 and the sorts.

though i do agree that generally if you find yourself with a straight something wrong must have happened before hand.

[Phat Mack]

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i don't agree with this thinking, as you're drawing to a perfect deuce anyways when you toss the 6. you're much more likely to win with 96 than 97 and the sorts.


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Here's my thinking.

If you draw either way and hit a 9, and if you lose with a 97543 but win with a 96543, what can your opponent have? Answer: 97542; 97532; 97432.

All three of your opponent's possible hands have deuces in them, and all three have 9's.

How many outs to beat your opponent? Drawing to a 6543, there are three 9's and four 8's, for a total of seven. Drawing to a 7543, there are three 2's and four 8's for a total of seven outs. Same number of outs for either, but I still think ditching the 6 is the best deal because you will have an eight (or better) drawing to, and hitting, the 7.

[Lottery Larry]

So, you're discarding the 7 to draw to, at best, an 86? You can't catch the deuce if you hold 6543.

I didn't know that.

[Ezcheeze]

You would always throw the 6. Thowring a 7 or 3 drastically reduces your outs and the 6 is clearly better to thow than a 4 or 5.

-Ezcheeze