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Old 09-15-2005, 09:35 PM
JRF2k JRF2k is offline
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Default Another: Was this fold correct?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

River: (9.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: 9.20 BB
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Old 09-15-2005, 09:35 PM
Sightless Sightless is offline
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

Raise the flop, he might not have the king -_- and can't see the river
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Old 09-15-2005, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

Grunching.

Raise that flop. You may be best here.
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Old 09-15-2005, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

Raise the flop.
With the way you played this, you have to call a river bet from BB as long as UTG+1 folds. If UTG+1 calls or raises here, fold.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

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Raise the flop.
With the way you played this, you have to call a river bet from BB as long as UTG+1 folds. If UTG+1 calls or raises here, fold.

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Here's my question in this (or any flop with one overcard to your high pocket) situation: If you raise, and villian has king-rag or has a good king and is a monster-seer, both of which constitute a large part of the possibility here, and just calls, which many micro players will do even with AK, what's the line, provided BB becomes expectedly meek and checks the turn to hero?

The reason that I'm asking this is generally in most uber-passive micro games, villian isn't going to reraise you so that you can drop your hand guiltlessly. More often that not, he just smooth calls if you bet the turn, and leads out on the river in the event that you check behind on the turn, as it now becomes evident that you have a K.

sorry if this is confusing, but I always have a tough time with this line - I know that raising is better than calling, but 90% of the time I have this situation, it's villain calls, I bet turn and river, villain wins with K4off, or it's turn checks around, villain bets, I call and villain wins with K4off.

Does this make any sense?
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:16 PM
David04 David04 is offline
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

Well, I suck at poker, so take this with a grain of salt.

But my line for this specific hand would probably be something like:
Raise the flop. Call a 3-bet, fold the turn UI.
If my flop bet is merely called, I would lead out on the turn here because the K pairing is actually good for our hand. It is less likely that Villain has a K, and if he does, he will likely let us know by raising here.
Obviously, fold to a turn raise. If the turn bet is called, hope for a free showdown.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

I'm not sure why you would raise the flop. If you are ahead now you're not protecting your hand from anyone and are putting in more money with likely a nonexistent or very slim equity edge.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

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I'm not sure why you would raise the flop.

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What is your line here? Fold the flop? Call down? Wait for the turn to raise here?

If you are going to tell me why my line is incorrect, please post an alternative.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

READS PEOPLE, READS.

Given that flop I am definitely calling the flop and seeing what's up on the turn. Draws galore and mid-pairs that people like donking.
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:10 AM
TwoShedsJackson TwoShedsJackson is offline
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Default Re: Another: Was this fold correct?

I'm raising here as you could have the best hand, and even if one or more of them has a King there are plenty of cards on the turn that will give hero a nice redraw on the river. And the pot's big.
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