QQ capped on two streets

coinflip · #1 03-24-2005, 08:30 PM

Nice big family pot. Thoughts on turn action?

MP2 is 22/5/2.2 and BB is 77/31/4.67.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 3-bets, 4 folds, BB calls, Hero caps, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (16.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, BB calls, Hero ...

FishHooks · #2 03-24-2005, 09:26 PM

You hate to fold Huge pots, but I think you have to here, you can't just call one bet you have to call 4 on the turn and river, easy fold.

Aaron W. · #3 03-24-2005, 10:05 PM

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Nice big family pot.

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Four out of nine players is a family pot?

shadow29 · #4 03-24-2005, 10:18 PM

I'd fold turn. MP2 is scary.

coinflip · #5 03-24-2005, 10:40 PM

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Four out of nine players is a family pot?

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Poor choice of words, I suppose. Tables have been relatively tight this past week, and it's been a while since I've seen a flop capped 3 ways with a cold-caller to boot.

coinflip · #6 03-25-2005, 09:57 AM

Bump for the morning crowd.

Is the consensus really a fold without any overcards having appeared here?

imported_legoman · #7 03-25-2005, 10:08 AM

MP2 most likely has you beat. He caps with AA,KK,QQ, maybe JJ and TT. The only hand you beat there is JJ (I obviously don't put him on QQ as well). With MP1 leading in on the turn when the 2nd 5 hits, it makes it quite likely that he's beating you too.

You're getting about 24:4. I don't know if you're ahead more than 10% of the time. Someone better at doing real math could help you more, but I'd muck.

crownjules · #8 03-25-2005, 10:09 AM

MP2 is either on TT, KK or AA the way he's playing. Either one you're only drawing to two outs against.

adsman · #9 03-25-2005, 10:11 AM

I lead the turn.

Bokonnon · #10 03-25-2005, 10:12 AM

Would MP2 play this fast w/ JJ or AhKh?

This is the sort of question I ask myself and seldom know the answer to.

I fold, muttering.