Bubble Play

[jadducci]

What would a 2+2er do in this situation??


***** Hand History for Game 2375120321 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13994002 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Saturday, July 16, 20:10:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 11227 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 8: DaBull41 ( $1370 )
Seat 9: mfahey ( $3385 )
Seat 7: Hero ( $1510 )
Seat 3: enzocup ( $1735 )
Trny:13994002 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to y0joe [ Qs Ah ]
DaBull41 folds.
mfahey calls [200].
enzocup is all-In [1635]
Hero is all-In [1310]
mfahey calls [1535].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 4c, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

And the results are....not good

enzocup shows [ Ac, Jd ] high card ace.
Hero shows [ Qs, Ah ] high card ace.
mfahey shows [ Qc, Qd ] a pair of queens.

[2callzU]

IMO, this is the type of hand you wanna push with, not call a push with.

[imported_legoman]

Muck.
UTG limper and a push in front, you're at best a coinflip, and easily dominated by AK, QQ, KK, or AA. Plus, you don't want to have to show down the best hand anyway.

Also, there is a good chance that enzocup busts if mfahey calls.
Next hand, shortstack DaBull takes the blinds and stealing from him will be much easier.

[2callzU]

[ QUOTE ]
Muck.
UTG limper and a push in front, you're at best a coinflip, and easily dominated by AK, QQ, KK, or AA. Plus, you don't want to have to show down the best hand anyway.

Also, there is a good chance that enzocup busts if mfahey calls.
Next hand, shortstack DaBull takes the blinds and stealing from him will be much easier.

[/ QUOTE ] Yea, I think the UTG limper is the best sign that this is not your hand. The fact that you call after a limper and a push tells me that you overestimate the value of AQ. I'm sure Mr. Phil Ivey would express his hatred for this hand.

[bluewilde]

[ QUOTE ]
you don't want to have to show down the best hand anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry, I don't quite get what you mean here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. Could you elaborate?

[imported_legoman]

Say it's 4 handed and you have AK. You most likely have the best hand, but you still don't want to have to see 5 cards. AK vs two undercards is still only a 65/35 favorite, and you don't want to risk your tournament on those odds, when instead if you bet big enough preflop you can take down the blinds, which is a significant addition to your stack.

Similarly here, even though AQ might be the best hand, you don't want to have to see 5 cards because you don't have a significant edge to exploit. So, folding is a good option because even if the pusher has 23o, he has a 35% chance of winning and knocking you out. Pushing the next hand is far more profitable.

[bluewilde]

sweet, thanks