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Old 12-03-2005, 01:18 AM
Surfbullet Surfbullet is offline
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Default Re: Horray, 1st 10-20 hand post

I'm going to agree with adam here.

While not capping certainly isn't that big of a mistake in and of itself, it can lead to complete spewage like this where we feel "he doesn't know I have Aces!" while in reality he's thoroughly represnting a hand that can beat 1 pair.

I'd recommnend flatcalling 3bets with premiums when you are against a player who is A) TAGy B) quite observant C) a good hand reader and D) one whom you will clash with often.

It's just a waste otherwise IMO. This guy doesn't know you have aces. There are plenty of lagtards in these games who cap all sorts of crap, and he doesn't know that you are a TAG most likely. The beauty of these aggressive games is that you don't have to work hard at deceiving your opponents about strong holding because noone believes you anyway.

As it stands I 3bet the flop. If a player is more predictable i'll wait till the turn, but that would be if I expected to be able to confidently fold to a 3bet, which is not clear here at all. With a stronger holding waiting for the turn is better because we make an extra SB, but with a 1-pair hand it's cheaper to get reraised on the flop where I can call down from there and put a raise in if i improve and deem my hand worth a raise vs his range.

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Old 12-03-2005, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Horray, 1st 10-20 hand post

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I'm going to agree with adam here.

While not capping certainly isn't that big of a mistake in and of itself, it can lead to complete spewage like this where we feel "he doesn't know I have Aces!" while in reality he's thoroughly represnting a hand that can beat 1 pair.

I'd recommnend flatcalling 3bets with premiums when you are against a player who is A) TAGy B) quite observant C) a good hand reader and D) one whom you will clash with often.

It's just a waste otherwise IMO.

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Are you sure you and Adam agree? It sounds like Adam would cap this preflop against all opponents. Is this right, Adam?
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Horray, 1st 10-20 hand post

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[ QUOTE ]
I'm going to agree with adam here.

While not capping certainly isn't that big of a mistake in and of itself, it can lead to complete spewage like this where we feel "he doesn't know I have Aces!" while in reality he's thoroughly represnting a hand that can beat 1 pair.

I'd recommnend flatcalling 3bets with premiums when you are against a player who is A) TAGy B) quite observant C) a good hand reader and D) one whom you will clash with often.

It's just a waste otherwise IMO.

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Are you sure you and Adam agree? It sounds like Adam would cap this preflop against all opponents. Is this right, Adam?

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Correct. Cap preflop against any opponent here - for reasons I've already specified above.


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Old 12-03-2005, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: Horray, 1st 10-20 hand post

I'll go out on a limb here and say I think you played it fine postflop. As everyone else says cap pf duh.

Postflop though, that checkraise is almost never a set and is usually something like KK or another very strong one pair hand like AJ. Given that and that you raised the deuce on the turn that made a flush draw (and look very suspicious) I think the cap is fine. When you cap a street it gets you a very honest reaction on the next street. If he bets you should probably just call, had he checked you would bet of course.
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:21 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: Horray, 1st 10-20 hand post

Cap PF because you should cap many weaker hands in this spot as well. A cap won't lose you any action. The places to not cap AA/KK PF are those where A.) capping would narrow your range to a very small/strong group of hands and B.) you are against an opponent who knows that and will respond accordingly.

Postflop on this hand I think you should call down after the turn 3-bet.
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