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Old 04-12-2005, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Blind Defense Stop and Goes

Nice.

What do you do if raised again?
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Blind Defense Stop and Goes

What other hands will you bet out on the flop with in this situation?
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:46 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense Stop and Goes

What turnip said. I think you're simply giving up value by not bet-3betting.
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Blind Defense Stop and Goes

i hate every post that ends with "i bet"
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Blind Defense Stop and Goes

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i hate every post that ends with "i bet"

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pff. Often that's the best way otherwise it gives off results and that would affect the rest of the hand. Also, in this case, the bet was what he was wondering about. Don't be so sensitive. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Blind Defense Stop and Goes

it's just the intentional finality of it that implies that the move is clever. "i bet" is like "i flat call, then i punch myself in the cock" with a wink

anyway the only time i think this is more profitable is if the person is extremely likely to raise you with anything on the turn just because the stop and go will make them angry. if AJ is going to pop you on the turn here, by all means. you also can't let a jack or queen bother you either if you're aiming for that.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:00 PM
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What part of 'i punch myself in the cock' is clever? Worst...analogy...ever...

Anyways, I like 3-betting on the flop.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:21 PM
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it's just the intentional finality of it that implies that the move is clever. "i bet" is like "i flat call, then i punch myself in the cock" with a wink

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Worst annalogy ever. And I don't think barry was trying to be clever.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:32 PM
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I don't think barry was trying to be clever

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I have been experimenting with a new line

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it's a general comment, not something against barry. i think he's a swell guy. ending a post with "i [action]" (fold, checkraise, anything) is most often a stick that in your pipe and smoke it kind of statement, especially so with "i bet". it implies the sassy, irreverent twist that they have put on poker, and it's supposed to be the part you talk about. i think it takes on a totally different feel if you say "i bet, he raises. i've been experimenting with calling instead of threebetting here and then betting any turn. is that line better?" watch for the "action end" in future posts, trust me.

don't read too much into it. but the analogy was awesome.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:30 PM
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1) I thought astro's analogy was f'in hilarious.

2) I didn't really get it from Barry's post - I think he was just describing his action and soliciting comment on that as opposed to a flop 3-bet or turn checkraise attempt. However, astro's general point is very correct. Often posts go something like "i check, he bets, i checkraise" where they really mean to say "i check, he bets, i checkraise <suck on that, bitches>." My response to those is usually, ooooooh goody for you.
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