5-10 online hand played against the one and only JEFFAGE

[Tyler Durden]

This game is loose, kinda passive.
We'll make it a hand-reading exercise.

EP limps in, Jeffage raises it up, folded to me in the CO and I 3-bet. The EP limper folds and Jeffage calls. We're heads up.

Flop comes A [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/forums/images/icons/heart.gif[/img].

Jeffage checks and calls.

Turn is 9 [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img].
Jeffage checkraises me, I 3-bet and he calls.

River is K [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img].
Jeffage checks and calls.

What did each of us have? Who won the hand? What did you think of our respective plays?

Thanks much.


barelylegalteens.com

[rigoletto]

Tyler: TT
Jeffage: AK

Question: where do you find loose passive 5-10 online?

[Rube]

You have 99, Jeffage has AK

[mdlm]

I assume Jeffage is in MP.

Jeffage raises preflop: According to Jones he has AA-88, AKs-QJs, AQs, KJs, AJs, ATs, AK, KQ, AQ, AJ, or AT.

You reraise in LP: According to Jones you have AA-JJ, AKs, AQs, AK, or AQ

Flop is As4sTh. Jeffage checks and calls. Jones virtually never checks and calls so we will put Jeffage on top pair or better or a flush draw. This eliminates KK, QQ, JJ, 99, 88, KQ. So now Jeffage has: AA, TT, AKs, KsQs, QsJs, AQs, AQ, KsJs, AJs, ATs, AK, AQ, AJ, or AT.

You bet. Jones only bets with flush draw or top pair or better. This eliminates KK, QQ, and JJ and leaves you with AA, AKs, AQs, AK, or AQ.

Turn is 9c. Jeff check-raises you, you three-bet, and he calls. I think that this eliminates all of the flush draws (if they are not eliminated here, they are eliminated on the river), AA, and TT. This leaves Jeffage with AKs, AQs, AJs, ATs, AK, AQ, AJ, or AT. AJs and AJ are gone if Jeffage is not too aggressive. AQ and AQs might be gone as well.

You reraise. I don't think this eliminates anything. You have AA, AKs, AQs, AK, or AQ. Maybe AQ and AQs are gone.

River is Ks. Jeffage checks and calls. I don't think this eliminates anything. So Jeffage has AKs, AK, AQs, AQ, AJs, AJ, or AT. Maybe AKs and AK are gone if Jeffage is not too aggressive or he thinks that you will re-raise only with a better hand.

So I think you have: AA, AKs, or AK. Maybe AQs or AQ.
And Jeffage has: AT or ATs. Possibly AKs or AK. Maybe AQs, AQ, AJs, or AJ.

Rigo says you have TT. Jones does not re-raise in LP with TT.

Rube says you have 99. Jones does not re-raise in LP with 99.

I think it's interesting that both Rube and Rigo think that Jeffage is on AK. No one raises from MP with AT or ATs? Or does the lack of a re-raise on the turn eliminate these hands?

Also, I don't see what play moves you off AA. You bet at every possible opportunity.

I look forward to the results and your comments. Also if Jeffage would comment that would be great.

[Tyler Durden]

I'll post the results in about 5 or 6 hours. I'd like to get some more responses.

[Dynasty]

It doesn't matter what Jones does. It only matters what Tyler and Jeffage do.

[Tyler Durden]

That's what I was thinking. The Jones book is good for beginners, but after a certain point graduating to HEPFAP is a necessity.

[Robk]

Rigo says you have TT. Jones does not re-raise in LP with TT.

Rube says you have 99. Jones does not re-raise in LP with 99.

Not reraising with these pairs (against most players) is a big mistake. Among the reasons for
doing so is that if you only reraise with AA, KK, QQ, and AK you are giving away way
too much information to observant opponents.

[Jimbo]

Since I have played online with Jeffage I know his preflop raising standards are somewhat tricky. I guess Jeff raised with A/9 suited and you three bet with A/T. Without knowing what cards you really had it is impossible to rate your play of the hand. I would imagine that you won with A/T.

I should probably add that Jeffage may have had JJ and you had A/Q but consider this possibility less likely.

[Homer]

I seriously doubt Tyler would three-bet Jeffage with AT, but I could be wrong.

-- Homer