How's this line?

[nightlyraver]

I'm posting this hand because it's my basic strategy for strong TP or OP type hands in HU situations when I'm out of position. The goal is to make Villian make the most costly mistakes (i.e. maximum profits). Let's hear some critiques...


OK, so here is the hand:

About 30 away from the bubble. $10 MTT on FullTilt. Blinds are 120/240 with an ante 0f 25. Villian is a typical loose, passive player, but he's not a total donk.

The pot starts off at 585, folded around to Hero in the SB.

Hero(4800) is dealt AA, raises to 720 total.
Villian(5200) calls from the BB.

Clearly there are other ways to play this preflop. However, I want to maximize profits so I'm offering Villian about 2:1 on his call. Since my range to open in late position is somewhat liberal, he would be correct to call with a wide range of hands that he should not call with if he knew my hand.

The Flop comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot=1665)

Hero(4080) bets 720
Villian(4480) calls 720

I will often continuation bet in this spot, and this looks like another continuation bet. I could be more, but I want Villian to make a mistake and he most likely will not bet if I check. Being somewhat loose, I expect him to call more often than he should. I COULD end the hand right now, but then I think I'm only called by very few hands that I beat. My smaller bet makes him put in chips as a big dog. I should also note that winning the pot right now will not have a huge effect on my tournament chances, but winning an extra bet definately tips the scale.

The 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] falls on the turn (pot=3105)

Hero(3360) moves all-in for 3360

At this point the pot represents about half my stack, so I'm not getting greedy. I want to win the pot right here. Since I'm aggressive post-flop, I actually will expect a call from this Villian with a bunch of hands that I beat. Also, he's only getting 2:1 if he is drawing and a call will be a VERY costly mistake.

Villian(3760) calls 3360 and flips over 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

This is a good result. I'm a 2.5:1 favorite and got all my chips in. I lost the hand when a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] fell on the river, but that's not why I posted this hand. I feel I played this hand for absolute maximum value, but I'd like some critisism...

Thanks!

I think you played perfectly...IF this were not a draw heavy board. straight draw not very likely (but possible), flush draw a lot more likely. After the flop, I bet enough to take away the odds of playing the draw.

[Superfluous Man]

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I lost the hand when a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] fell on the river, but that's not why I posted this hand.


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Not to be a dick or anything, but if the river is the 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], I don't think you're posting this hand.

Either way, I think your line is absolutely fine, good job getting your chips (and your opponent's) in the pot with way the best of it on every street.

[Gert505]

I like your approach to the hand. Pre-flop and flop are very good. I also like your turn bet. It was not “correct” for him to call your bet. You made him make a mistake, and you will profit from it in the long run. If you want to win the pot right now, an alternative you could have done on the turn is bet just three quarters of the pot. (I know that is three quarters of your stack). It still gives him the wrong odds to call, but it doesn’t come off as a steal attempt which he is more likely to call with a flush draw. I think that he will lay down his hand more often in this situation then the all in bet.

If you were in villain’s shoes, how often do you call this all in bet with incorrect odds on the turn or river at a chance to knock someone out of the tournament and increase your chip stack?

[schwza]

i'd prefer a bigger bet on the flop, but yeah, this is an ok line.

if you don't have the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], villain has 15 outs out of 44 cards in the deck, so he's ~1.95:1 to win the hand. i'd call the push on the turn if i were him.

I get 13 or 14 outs.

8-9 hearts. 2 nines. 3 sevens.

[schwza]

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I get 13 or 14 outs.

8-9 hearts. 2 nines. 3 sevens.

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yep, my bad.