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Old 10-29-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Help with top pair, weak kicker

Just sat down on table, no reads. Thoughts on all streets, anything you do differently?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (12.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:01 PM
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Flop bet isn't terrible I guess. With 4 opponents it's usually best to check. Call if a bet comes from your left, raise if it comes from your right.
Check/fold turn.
River is fine.
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:11 PM
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I'd check/fold turn. Fold to a turn raise since you have no reads.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:27 PM
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D, sometimes we feel like we have this emotional need to bet into a hand/flop like this. Since there's only 3 overcards to our top pair, and a decent number of hands behind us, I think a check is in order and let's see what happens. Often times it will check to the button, who thinks he can buy the pot, and gives you an opportunity to c/r, and make the hand headsup on the turn. In general, you're not getting any flush draws out, and these guys don't fold on the flop anyhow. I think checking and see what happens feels real yummy.
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Old 10-29-2005, 07:00 PM
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Just sat down on table, no reads. Thoughts on all streets, anything you do differently?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (12.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

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Not too sure about this one. I know you had no choice to play your hand as you were in the BB, but was wondering if in this hand say were we in the SB, do people complete with Q6o here getting like 12:1. I have been folding from the SB in these spots as this hand illustrates I think it is going to be very difficult to play this profitable postflop. Just wanted to see what people think. Bottomset, feel free to call me weak-tight again, but please be nicer about it this time [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-29-2005, 07:42 PM
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If I were in the small blind, I'd fold this.
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Old 10-29-2005, 08:50 PM
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ck/fold flop

ck/fold turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-29-2005, 09:00 PM
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Flop bet isn't terrible I guess. With 4 opponents it's usually best to check. Call if a bet comes from your left, raise if it comes from your right.
Check/fold turn.
River is fine.

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He's got six!!! opponents on the flop but his hand is still dead man walking against 4 players
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Old 10-29-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Help with top pair, weak kicker

Without knowing anything about MP1, it's hard to say. Usually at .5/1 however, you don't find much semi-bluffing. I'd fold the turn against an unknown.

As played, on the river, your hand is too good to throw away for one bet getting 12:1 against an unknown.
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