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Old 11-23-2005, 01:35 PM
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but youve got a full house...

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Yes, yes I do. I called because it's very possible he has a lone 7. I didn't raise because it's very possible that he has more than a lone 7.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:36 PM
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but youve got a full house...

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yes but 87, 88, 72 and 73 all have bigger full houses, which I suppose is the worry.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:39 PM
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yes but 87, 88, 72 and 73 all have bigger full houses, which I suppose is the worry.

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Exactly. 8-8 didn't concern me, nor did 7-7. 8-7, 7-2 and 7-3 seemed like very realistic holdings, especially considering he's in the big blind and he's waking up forcefully on the river. At the time I honestly felt it was roughly a cointoss whether he had me or not.

I am absolutely not weak tight (esp. at micro limits), and I do realize that it can seem strange to not push here. I read him for at least a 7 and I had no further mechanism for determining his strength beyond the size of his bet.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:41 PM
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yes but 87, 88, 72 and 73 all have bigger full houses, which I suppose is the worry.

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Exactly. 8-8 didn't concern me, nor did 7-7. 8-7, 7-2 and 7-3 seemed like very realistic holdings, especially considering he's in the big blind and he's waking up forcefully on the river. At the time I honestly felt it was roughly a cointoss whether he had me or not.

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yes i see your concern, but i'm pretty sure he flips over the naked 7 and you take the pot.

but you probably played it safe, and right. nice post.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:46 PM
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At $25 NL, Its very likely he had an overpair like AA or KK here and has you on 8s.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] He's checking A-A or K-K from the BB with a field in front of him? And I'm open-limping 8-8 from MP? Then he goes nuts on the river after I seemingly value bet him on the turn?

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Yes
Play $25 NL and you'll won't go an hour with out seeing this.

They play AA like they flopped the nut boat. And are willing to put there stack in on the river, with a paired board, three to a flush... Its pretty amusing.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:58 PM
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He's pot committed by making that river bet. Put him all-in. If villain calls your flop raise with 27 and doesn't re-raise with 37 or 87 then why would he start betting the river? That 2 did not hurt you. 78 is the only holding I'm afraid of here.
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:11 PM
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78 is the only holding I'm afraid of here.

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That was my number one fear.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:19 PM
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Not raising this river is criminal.

What did you put him on, and what was the basis for that read?
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:20 PM
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Not raising this river is criminal.

What did you put him on, and what was the basis for that read?

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like the thread says, a naked 7 or MAYBE 78.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:26 PM
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Bet a little more on the turn, push river.
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