A4s, 10/20

partygirluk · #1 10-12-2005, 07:42 PM

I have been playing with Button for a bout 25 hands. One of the first hands went like this:

I raise AJo on the button. He 3 bets KQo from SB, I call. Flop is A85r. He bets, I call. Turn is Ace, river 3 and he check calls down.

Having said that, he does seem reasonable. Capable of aggression, not playing that many hands, and he checked behind AKs ui v 4 opponents on a Q85r after 3 betting preflop - so we can assume that he does think about individual betting decisions in context of the opponents, board texture etc.

Onto the hand:

I raise A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] from the CO. I have been raising alot and suspect someone might play back at me or call me from the BB more lightly. Villain 3 bets on the button, I call. 2 to the flop.

Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] . I check-call. I think this is thin, but on a board like this he is going to check behind on a tonne of turns, add in a couple of other reasons and I think I have a call here.

Turn is 7 clubs. I check, intending to fold, but he checks behing.

River is 4 of clubs. I check, intending to call.

ArturiusX · #2 10-12-2005, 07:45 PM

If he doesnt bluff in hand one on the turn, why do you think he'll bluff here? Check-fold.

GTSamIAm · #3 10-12-2005, 07:49 PM

I'm not sure about the flop call. What are you ahead of that he 3-bets with on the flop? If he has a mid pp, you have only 3 outs to the turn, and you're likely folding. Even if the ace comes, its likely he has you dominated. I'd fold that flop.

The rest looks fine. He might bet with his AQ, AJ, AT. You're definitely not stealing often, and he's definitely not paying you off. Have you been check/raising the turn a lot?

partygirluk · #4 10-12-2005, 07:50 PM

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I'm not sure about the flop call. What are you ahead of that he 3-bets with on the flop? If he has a mid pp, you have only 3 outs to the turn, and you're likely folding. Even if the ace comes, its likely he has you dominated. I'd fold that flop.

The rest looks fine. He might bet with his AQ, AJ, AT. You're definitely not stealing often, and he's definitely not paying you off. Have you been check/raising the turn a lot?

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I have more than 3 outs v. 22-77

GTSamIAm · #5 10-12-2005, 07:54 PM

You have at most 6 outs for about a third of the pocket pairs. The other pocket pairs you have about 3. The other hands he probably has you dominated. And if he checked behind on the turn with trip kings to let you hit something, you were drawing dead. I'm sorry, I think the flop is a pretty clear fold. That board sucks for you.

Lmn55d · #6 10-12-2005, 07:55 PM

fold the flop. Bet the river.

partygirluk · #7 10-12-2005, 08:01 PM

If flop was QQ8, do I have a peel? JJ8??

As it stands - what is my bet river line?

Lmn55d · #8 10-12-2005, 08:05 PM

unless he's 3betting you with Jx/Qx hands , you are drawing to 3 outs usually plus backdoor flush draw. Sometimes you will be drawing dead to AA, Kx, or 88 so let's say 3 outs for you. You need 14:1 for a 3 outer and it's not close.

The river I said in my above post to bet for value. His hand looks a hell of a lot like a big ace and I expect him to pay off (as per the previous hand you posted about him). I think you are a much bigger favorite betting than you are check/calling. I think he's gonna check those big aces behind a lot. He's calling with lower pocket pairs and will often bet those on the river because your double check was real weak so checking isn't gaining you anything there.

joker122 · #9 10-12-2005, 08:09 PM

the river seems like an easy bet.

wheelz · #10 10-12-2005, 10:18 PM

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fold the flop. Bet the river.

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