QQ One overcard, multiway

J. Stew · #1 09-14-2005, 12:37 AM

Table is loose passive. BB is 29/2 over 62 hands, MP3 is 32/3 over 60.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

With Jacks I just complete with six others already in, QQ I'm raising.

Flop: (14 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (10 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds.

It's hard to believe a check/fold line on the turn is right, but betting into that many players with a K and callers seems spewy. Check/call doesn't seem awesome.

River: (13 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 calls.

I felt like I was behind here but they're just calling. Anyone give up here?

Final Pot: 16 BB

#2 09-14-2005, 12:41 AM

I think betting into passive players like that is fine ... esp. if they would call down the to the river with middle or bottom pair.

On a side note, I can't seem to find tables as passive or loose as this on PP anymore ...

#3 09-14-2005, 12:47 AM

i would have played it the same.

Solovon · #4 09-14-2005, 02:54 AM

I'd play it the same, and sigh when someone turns over K8o or whatever.

Thoth · #5 09-14-2005, 05:24 AM

I'm definitively not betting the turn or river. With 6 opponents the chance of one of them having you beat is just way too high and you're not getting a better hand to fold.

POKhER · #6 09-14-2005, 05:29 AM

C/F turn in my opinion, Bet one of them has a king... and if not, i reckon you got lucky.

as your posting, prob did have.

car ramrod · #7 09-14-2005, 10:03 AM

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C/F turn in my opinion, Bet one of them has a king... and if not, i reckon you got lucky.

as your posting, prob did have.

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I don't think we should check/fold the turn just assuming someone has a K. I think a check maybe ok to see how the action goes. If it is bet/raise to us, then I can see a fold. But if it goes bet/call/call/call to us, then we can call and feel ok about it.

But I am not just check folding b/c there are 6 people in the pot, so someone has to have us beat. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

POKhER · #8 09-14-2005, 11:20 AM

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C/F turn in my opinion, Bet one of them has a king... and if not, i reckon you got lucky.

as your posting, prob did have.

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I don't think we should check/fold the turn just assuming someone has a K. I think a check maybe ok to see how the action goes. If it is bet/raise to us, then I can see a fold. But if it goes bet/call/call/call to us, then we can call and feel ok about it.

Because of pot odds/implied? or do you honestly think if someone bets we are ahead majority of time to warrent calling? 

But I am not just check folding b/c there are 6 people in the pot, so someone has to have us beat. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

 Sure, But its likly. I'd want to raise and know im ahead or fold becuase i am losing. Calling is least favourite in my opinion. 

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Highn · #9 09-14-2005, 05:36 AM

Think you played it okay, fold to a raise on the turn or river. But since they didn't its fine I think.

POKhER · #10 09-14-2005, 05:37 AM

how often do you think were ahead?