Third man walking rule....

[Joe Tall]

I did not want to hyjack the Wynn thread but in the Wynn thread Mason stated this:

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By the way, I was there Friday night and discovered that they now have the "third man walking rule." I told a couple of their on duty managers that if they keep this rule and enforce it, they should be out of their jobs in the not to distant future.

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It may be a Foxwoods-specific thing but they have the rule and enforce it here. Granted, I'd rather play shorthanded but, as we all know, most do not. When the regulars are on top of it and/or the dealer; the floor is pretty good at picking someone up and filling that seat if they have been gone for too long. They are also very good at announcing over the PA to get back to your seats as "your game is in danger of breaking."

I would like what others think about the rule. I feel it keeps the game going. Granted there is nearly always a 12+ deep list at Foxwoods for the 20 game, 24hrs, maybe this has something to do with it.

[Tyler Durden]

can u explain the rule please?

[random]

If you're the third person to get up and take a break from the table, you have until the blinds get to you to get back or you lose your seat.

Edit: I think I had it wrong the first time.

[anduril]

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can u explain the rule please?

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at Foxwoods the rule is that if you leave the table, the next dealer puts an absent button in front of your chips. If you're still not back and another dealer comes, you get a second button. When the third dealer comes if you're not there they pick you up. If you're the third person to get up the dealer informs you you have 10 minutes to return to your seat or else you'll be picked up. Plenty of time to go to the bathroom or go get something to eat and bring it back to the table. Like I said in the Wynn post and to agree with Joe, better to keep the bad players (whether local or not) happy. Bad players don't like to play shorthanded and if the table breaks it's a giant pain in the ass to get onto another one.

[charlie_t_jr]

I beleive most Tunica rooms use the rule. I really have no opinion on the rule, other than when I've got a seat, I can play full or short. It does help with the massive wait lists though.

[stabn]

One of the biggest problems in vegas seems to be people abusing the rule to continually go away for an hour at a time while playing 5-10 hands when they finally come back before they take off yet again. So you basically can never get lunch or dinner and keep your seat because you always end up as the 3rd man walking since two local nits are always gone from your table. The rule ends up penalizing the tourists while letting the locals keep their seat forever.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Local nits like the ones you describe are too common. That's why I like having to work off your absent buttons. But if you're not going to make them work off their time, then the floors need to take steps against these nits, particularly not allowing them any comps, and in some cases picking them up anytime they are abusing the rules regardless of how long they've been gone.

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[midas]

ACJ

The last time I played at the Bellagio (4-8) there were two local retired rocks who would play one hand leave for an hr come back then do it again and again. Over 4 hrs they played about ten hands. I complained to the floor and they did nothing. Never been back to the Bellagio (for poker).

Mandalay Bay bound 9/29 - 10/2

[benfranklin]

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The last time I played at the Bellagio (4-8) there were two local retired rocks who would play one hand leave for an hr come back then do it again and again. Over 4 hrs they played about ten hands. I complained to the floor and they did nothing.

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I apparently don't know enough about LV poker to understand why the locals do this. Are they earning comps while "sitting" at the table? Why would the casino want them there, unless they are leaking big time at craps or 21 while they are gone? Are they trying to keep the seat for when the game gets good later in the evening? If they are locals, they are obviously not whales on a junket.

[Bukem_]

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One of the biggest problems in vegas seems to be people abusing the rule to continually go away for an hour at a time while playing 5-10 hands when they finally come back before they take off yet again. So you basically can never get lunch or dinner and keep your seat because you always end up as the 3rd man walking since two local nits are always gone from your table. The rule ends up penalizing the tourists while letting the locals keep their seat forever.

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Yeah I was playing at a table where one guy had been playing 24 hours straight and wanted to get dinner, but coudln't.

But they other guys who were up had been at the table a total of 5 hours combined, and maybe played 25-30 hands inbetween the two of them in this time.

Floor refused to make an exception for him.(This was reno hilton around wpt time, not foxwoods)