Intersting quote from "The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide King

[andyfox]

"It's not guaranteed that we'll win. Andy's a pretty good player."

"When you play him [Beal], you're probably, at best, a two-to-one favorite, maybe even less. If you counted just wins and losses, we're probably ahead 57 percent to 43 percent or something like that. His losses have been bigger than his wins. When he's losing, his game deteriorates. That's something that's not as likely to happen when we're losing. Plus we have the advantage of putting in new players--fresh players, players with the most success against him or whose styles match up best. When you consider that we're the best in the world and we have those other advantages, it's pretty even. It's not really clear that, on skill, alone, we're better than Andy."

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[cdxx]

that's what i thought it meant. if you were to take the corporation as a field against Beal, they were 2-1

any one of the corp is much closer, perhaps even an underdog

[TStoneMBD]

ivey reported making 100k playing online poker in a months time even while he was actively playing in the live 4k-8k game. yet ivey plays live as his regular game. these players are making ALOT of money.

[Justin A]

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"It's not guaranteed that we'll win. Andy's a pretty good player."

"When you play him [Beal], you're probably, at best, a two-to-one favorite, maybe even less. If you counted just wins and losses, we're probably ahead 57 percent to 43 percent or something like that. His losses have been bigger than his wins. When he's losing, his game deteriorates. That's something that's not as likely to happen when we're losing. Plus we have the advantage of putting in new players--fresh players, players with the most success against him or whose styles match up best. When you consider that we're the best in the world and we have those other advantages, it's pretty even. It's not really clear that, on skill, alone, we're better than Andy."

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yeah I remember that part and it was surprising to see that Greenstein didn't think they had an edge in skill alone.

[dibbs]

These statements are very humorous when loaded, Ill have to give it a sober look.

The games you mentioned for them to prove themselves are very small for them, I doubt they feel the need to bother.

[henrikrh]

In regards to the corperation playing 100/200 online etc. and proving themselves. This is just stupid, they don't need to prove themselves. The proving ground of the poker world pretty much is the Big Game. Besides online they hardly have an advantage, but not because the are worse at poker or any specific game, because part of their advantage is in tells much the same way part of an online players advantage is in Poker Tracker and they probably don't use poker tracker or if they do they won't wield it with the same effectiveness as a 100/200 regular online. Maybe Prhalad or whoever should prove themselves and sit down in the big game, you really think they would survive?

[mother_brain]

If Prahlad has a big night he might make 100 or 200K.
This was 1BB in the games Beal was playing.
I think he would be a favorite heads up in the situation he created.
As for teh comments on teh odds. The games they were playing were less than 75BB a lot of times they just went back and forth for hours on end.
My personal opinion was that the entire book didn't provide a large enough sample size to be certain of much at all.

[disjunction]

If live play increases their edge in any way (the pros will be more attentive, they will be better at Pokertracker-like activities in their head, small tells, etc., also **decreased variance**), this addresses both issues raised in this thread.

[joel2006]

500/1000 is a huge jump down from 4k/8k against the world's best, there are pros who beat 500/1k games live but get eaten up in the big game. I don't doubt that some of the big pros might haev a little trouble initially online as they adjust, but then they would crush those games provided they could keep interested long enough.

[kenberman]

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If Prahlad has a big night he might make 100 or 200K.
This was 1BB in the games Beal was playing.
I think he would be a favorite heads up in the situation he created.

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umm, the book was written about Limit Hold Em