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Old 12-23-2005, 05:29 PM
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the bigger reason it fails is because there is a max bet, if there was no max bet and you had an infinite bankroll it would work in theory.

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No it wouldn't.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Martingale for SNGs

What's the difference between using the Martingale System and Card Counting in Black Jack -- I'll tell you

If they catch you counting cards, they'll kick you out of the casino. If they catch you using a Martingale, you can expect lots of comps -- they may even send an airplane to pick you up from whereever you live.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:47 PM
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Unless you play online. Online casino software can detect people using the Martingale system so the system rigs itself and makes you lose.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Martingale for SNGs

Perhaps the OP really means a sort of 'step' type approach to STTs.....not really martingale but more like 'parlay'.....there have been some good posts on that as well.

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Old 12-23-2005, 08:28 PM
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Unless you play online. Online casino software can detect people using the Martingale system so the system rigs itself and makes you lose.

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Untrue
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Martingale for SNGs

I think that he was being sarcastic. At least I really hope that he was being sarcastic.
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Old 12-26-2005, 05:39 PM
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What I meant in the original post was that how would using the Martingale be better than using the Kelly% when it comes to money managing SNG buy-ins?

To simplify things, let's take the case of a 66% ITM (aka 20% ROI)HEADS UP SNG player. He plays 5+5. Once he loses, he plays 5+5 again. Once he loses, he moves up to 11. Once he loses, he moves up to 33. Once he loses, he plays 33 once again. Once he loses, he plays 55. Once he loses, he plays 109. Once he loses, he plays 215. That's 8 loses in a row. There's no way a 66% ITM (aka 20%ROI) heads up player would lose 8 games in a row.

How would this system be better or worse than using the Kelly to make money management decisions?
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Old 12-26-2005, 05:44 PM
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There's no way a 66% ITM (aka 20%ROI) heads up player would lose 8 games in a row.

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Old 12-26-2005, 06:48 PM
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Uh, a 66% ITM at the $5s |= a 66% ITM at the $100s.
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:58 PM
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I am referring to heads up SNS. In a heads up SNG, 66% in the money equals 20% ROI.

But my question is regards to using the martingale for SNGs. I wonder how big or small the fluctuations would be relative to Kelly and Half Kelly. Assume positive EV not negative EV (like roulette).
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