Ugly JJ line

Isura · #1 12-05-2005, 07:46 PM

New to the table, no reads. I hate these no reads hands. Comments please.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($109)
SB ($36.25)
BB ($77.40)
Hero ($48.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($8.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($18.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero folds.

#2 12-05-2005, 07:47 PM

easy fold in my opinion on the flop. ONly losing $2 if you fold on the flop. Q-2 beats you. Plus you're out of position, so if he's drawing, it's harder to play later on...

Maulik · #3 12-05-2005, 07:50 PM

raise or muck the flop. as played you have J high.

#4 12-05-2005, 07:51 PM

villain weak bet on the river, what does this mean on average? Did he puss out or is he trying to sap a sap of some money?

Sorry for a LC response, but the river is the meat and
potatoes here.

Cambraceres

By the way are you in for ssnl mod or not?
I voted fro 4_2 but he seems indiferent and behind you.

EMcWilliams · #5 12-05-2005, 07:52 PM

I might re-pop the flop, but thats me. I turn is interesting, as it is another over but a card that gives you an OESD. You are getting about 2.6-1 or so, and the implied odds arent great, so I think I fold. On the river, hes offering about 2.5-1 on a brick, so if you think hes doing this with a missed FD or air, then call. I fold here though. Tough break.

Isura · #6 12-05-2005, 07:52 PM

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Sorry for a LC response, but the river is the meat and potatoes here.

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Agree. The river is pretty close IMO. I think I should have raised the flop too. 2 spades and stuff like KJ seem to make this flop bet at .25/.50.

4_2_it · #7 12-05-2005, 07:53 PM

Fold the turn. You have six clean outs (probably) and I would guess that you aren't getting paid even if you hit. If villain is firing 3 barrels without a K or Q then you should have no trouble getting his stack soon.

rachelwxm · #8 12-06-2005, 02:09 PM

I don't think it's that bad actually although pretty passive.
How about a donkey raise on that flop and check behind on turn? Fold is not too bad either if you think he is not out of line.

4_2_it · #9 12-06-2005, 02:14 PM

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How about a donkey raise on that flop and check behind on turn?

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What does that accomplish? What better hands are you folding? Why build a pot with 2nd pair? Try to get to a showdown cheap after that horrible flop.

swolfe · #10 12-06-2005, 02:15 PM

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Plus you're out of position, so if he's drawing, it's harder to play later on...

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hero is in position