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Old 07-21-2005, 09:46 PM
Sabrazack Sabrazack is offline
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Default Push/fold hands

Are these hands you would normally push in a 20+2 partypoker tour given the blinds/stacksizes?

Hand 1:

NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee
Level:4 Blinds
(50/100) - Thursday, July 21, 19:05:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 14107 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: HERO ( $605 )
Seat 2: oneknite ( $500 )
Seat 3: KING48 ( $1010 )
Seat 4: JoshuainMN ( $828 )
Seat 7: Poodlehead ( $1872 )
Seat 9: ngvato ( $1300 )
Seat 10: blkbisct6 ( $1885 )
Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7d Ac ]
blkbisct6 folds.
HERO is all-In [605]


Hand 2:

NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee
Level:6 Blinds
(100/200) - Thursday, July 21, 20:20:19 EDT 2005
Table Table 14977 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: HERO ( $790 )
Seat 5: herricksteph ( $66 )
Seat 6: CKYJelly111 ( $2266 )
Seat 7: Melissa_79 ( $2585 )
Seat 8: neilsdizzle ( $998 )
Seat 9: Emtpyme ( $1295 )
Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3d Qc ]
neilsdizzle folds.
Emtpyme folds.
HERO is all-In [790]
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:39 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Push/fold hands

1. fold, you aren't desperate enough to be making a -EV push
2. push, you have 4BB and decent position
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:45 PM
dmmikkel dmmikkel is offline
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Default Re: Push/fold hands

I push hand1 too because if you fold through blinds you're basicly relying on winning a showdown to have a chance.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:16 PM
ChrisV ChrisV is offline
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Default Re: Push/fold hands

Hand 1 I'd only push if blinds are up on my SB or earlier.

Hand 2 I think push... the presence of 66 chip-guy worries me a bit because if he's smart he'll call allin with a very wide range of hands... he's getting 3-1 on his money against usually one opponent... this bleeds a bit of EV from me and forces me to reveal that I pushed with Q3o. I don't think there's much I can do though, the situation is getting desperate.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:51 PM
starvs starvs is offline
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Default Re: Push/fold hands

I push both.

Hand 1: with an ace, 7xBB, and the blinds approaching you have to make a move sometime soon, most likely not going to get a better hand (before the blinds atleast).

Hand 2: Q high with 4xBB is good enough for me. Just pray for a suckout.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:40 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: Push/fold hands

I usually push hand 1. Hand 2 I think I fold.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: Push/fold hands


Hand 1 is a fold, but its relatively close. One position closer to the button and its a brainless allin, thus its close.

Hand 2 - I would PROBABLY move allin. ChrisV is correct that the button should call with an extremely wide range of hands, but okay the button probably isnt that smart and will fold most weak hands.
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:20 PM
ZeroPointMachine ZeroPointMachine is offline
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Default Re: Push/fold hands

I probably fold both-but it's close.
A little better position or a little bit of a weak tight read on the table and I'm pushing both.
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