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Old 07-16-2005, 05:46 PM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

Hey guys. This is a students hand. It's a 20+2. I've never seen a situation quite like this, and I'm not exactly sure what I'd do. I think my judgement might be off because I saw the opponents hands before deciding.

Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

Hero (t920)
UTG (t370)
MP (t2490)
Button (t1510)
SB (t2710)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t370 (All-In)</font>, MP calls t370, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t320, Hero?
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Old 07-16-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

I fold here 110% of the time.
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

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I fold here 110% of the time.

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While it is impossible to give more than 100%, i don't ever see myself calling here.
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

i see no reason to really stay in there
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

Let me see that fooooooooold. Baby... Fo-fold fo-fold fold fold.
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:16 PM
Nick B. Nick B. is offline
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

If you think the hand is likely to get checked down, I would consider calling.
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

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If you think the hand is likely to get checked down, I would consider calling.

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This is what I was thinking myself.

Those two calls just seem so weak to me.
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

The problem with calling is that if you call and lose you are a serious disadvantage with respect to the Button as far as stack size.

Stack fold = 820.
Stack call &amp; lose = 550.
Stack call &amp; win = 2030.

So basically you're risking crippling yourself to be tied for first in a for way pot. In other words, by calling and losing you are two double ups out of the race instead of 1.

I'm expecting one of my 3 opponents to have a pair and I'm also expecting at least one of my ace outs to be dead. I think this is a fold.
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

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If you think the hand is likely to get checked down, I would consider calling.

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This is what I was thinking myself.

Those two calls just seem so weak to me.

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That's fine if you had a larger stack. But if you call, miss, and get bet out of the pot, your stack has really take a significant hit. I'd be much more apt to call if I had 1300+.
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Student\'s Hand.. ATo on Bubble

I don't think I would ever call, I would only maybe consider pushing to give great odds against the small stack if I thought I could get the other 2 to fold. But I dont think my stack is big enough to push them out so I fold.
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