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Old 12-06-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

why do you think his bet indicates strength? 2 pair or set???? He could simply have an Ace and be testing you to see if you had a middlish pair. That being said, you may still want to proceed with caution. I would throw out a reraise (not 400-500, maybe 240))and see how he responds, if he pushes or re-reraises then I may consider letting go of the hand. More times than not, i go broke though.

You said early in a tourny, what kind of tourney? Micro's = donkfest.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

Why can't you fold if you make a 3x raise of villian and he then pushes. You'll still have T1000 in chips left, which is far from being desperate. You will now have new information
based on villian's repsonse of you raise to hopefully make
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

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Why can't you fold if you make a 3x raise of villian and he then pushes.

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Because of the words "early in the tournament." T2o will push. I've seen it so many times.
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:31 PM
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As the others have said, since it's early in the tournament im not folding this one. I have a really nice chance at doubling up here or I go out early. Big deal. I take the gamble (if it's even is a gamble...)
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

Can't argue with your logic, but on the flip side, if you can't fold TPTK early in a tournament you're going to be busting out quite a bit in the first few levels.

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Old 12-06-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

I'm getting all in and pissed when he shows me A9, A10. It's cool...Theres another train leaving the station in a few minutes. I'll be on it
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:20 PM
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Yea but in this case, I got TPTK and he can have a weak ace here. This situation don't occur that often and if I had TPGK with let's say Q10 on a 10-7-4 board I may let that go if the action is to much. I have a hard time folding TPTK this early when I think I am ahead at least 50% of the time, I take the gamble here.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

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Can't argue with your logic, but on the flip side, if you can't fold TPTK early in a tournament you're going to be busting out quite a bit in the first few levels.

Bruce

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that's true, but you're also going to double up a lot.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

And for every time T2o pushes AT will push ten more times.

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Old 12-06-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop

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Why can't you fold if you make a 3x raise of villian and he then pushes. You'll still have T1000 in chips left, which is far from being desperate. You will now have new information
based on villian's repsonse of you raise to hopefully make
a better choice.

Bruce

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If I raise t400 and he goes all-in, I have to call t450 to win a t2290 pot, and I need a 20% chance to win to make the call.

If he has 2 pair my chances are ~15%, and I almost have the odds for a call.

If he has a set, my chances are ~3%

But if he has something like AQ or KT, then my chances are 85%.

It doesn't take many of those dominated hands to make up for the two-pair/set possibilities.

I think the call of the reraise all-in is a must.
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