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Old 10-26-2005, 09:37 AM
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Default Chicago Bans Foie Gras

Talk about animal rights activism run amok! Plus this stuff is GOOD. Just think it's ridiculous that citizens can't decide what to eat themselves, they have to be told what is appropriate.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...510260246oct26,1,3066357,print.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Panel doesn't have stomach for foie gras
Health Committee OKs ban; measure goes to City Council
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By Gary Washburn
Tribune staff reporter

October 26, 2005

After hearing a Hollywood actress compare the production of a delicacy made from the livers of geese and ducks to abuses at a notorious Iraqi prison, a City Council committee on Tuesday advanced a measure that would make Chicago a foie gras-free zone.

Only three farms in the U.S. produce foie gras, none of them in Illinois. And Ald. Joe Moore (49th), sponsor of the measure to ban its sale, acknowledged that "no more than a dozen or so" restaurants here probably have it on their menus.

But "laws are reflections of our values and morals," he asserted.

Moore hailed preliminary approval of the prohibition by the council's Health Committee, saying it will result in "fewer ducks and geese being tortured to create this product." And he said a ban here would "send a clear message" to other cities and states that may decide to consider similar measures.

The committee heard a New York veterinarian and activist describe how feeding pipes are "jammed down the esophaguses" of terrified birds that are force-fed three times a day to make their livers 10 times normal size to produce foie gras.

And committee members viewed a graphic video of bloodied birds that had undergone the process.

"If I sound a little out of breath, I am always overwhelmed listening to stories of abuse and torture," said actress and animal-rights advocate Loretta Swit, who testified in support of the ban.

The former star of the "M*A*S*H" television series contended that there are ties between what happened at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, where inmates were abused by U.S. soldiers, and what happens to ducks and geese whose livers are harvested for foie gras.

"Violence begets violence," she said. "Brutality begets brutality."

But Didier Durand, chef and owner at Cyrano's Bistrot, 546 N. Wells St., insisted that "there is no torture" in the production of the delicacy. And he told the skeptical aldermen that it is healthy to eat. Durand attributed low cholesterol levels and a low incidence of heart attacks in his native region of France to consumption of foie gras, which he said he sells to about 30 customers a week.

Cyrano's charges $15 for three-ounce servings.

Carrie Nahabedian, owner of Naha, 500 N. Clark St., predicted that a Chicago ban simply would push foie gras lovers to suburban restaurants.

Marcus Henley of Hudson Valley Foie Gras & Duck Products, gave committee members packets with what he said was scientific evidence that birds are not abused in foie gras production, and he invited an inspection.

But the aldermen were unmoved, and the ban proposal now goes to the full council for a vote next week.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: Chicago Bans Foie Gras

Retarded. By this logic Nike shoes should be illegal because some of their workers are mistreated.

I have no interest in ever eating foie gras, but if veal is ever banned where I live I'm going to suicide-bomb PETA.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:40 AM
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I'm all for eating and torturing animals all you want but that's pretty gross on all levels.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: Chicago Bans Foie Gras

Too bad for Chicago. I saw the geese get "force fed" on Anthony Bourdain's old show and it didn't look like force feeding to me.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Chicago Bans Foie Gras

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Retarded. By this logic Nike shoes should be illegal because some of their workers are mistreated.

I have no interest in ever eating foie gras, but if veal is ever banned where I live I'm going to suicide-bomb PETA.

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I feel so bad, but veal is so [censored] tasty.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Chicago Bans Foie Gras

I actually don't eat veal for similar reasons. I know that it isn't logically or ethically consistant with my other eating habits, but whatever.

I haven't ever been faced with Fois Gras, but I imagine I wouldn't eat it as well.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Chicago Bans Foie Gras

Once the geese get really fat, and no longer want to eat, then they start force feeding. Stuffing food down their gullets, etc. Its pretty bad.

That being said I dont believe Foie Gras shouldnt be illegal.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:53 AM
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Marcus Henley of Hudson Valley Foie Gras & Duck Products, gave committee members packets with what he said was scientific evidence that birds are not abused in foie gras production, and he invited an inspection.

But the aldermen were unmoved, and the ban proposal now goes to the full council for a vote next week.


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Glad they went into it impartially and willing to look at all the facts rather than just taking some actor's word for it.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:54 AM
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That being said I dont believe Foie Gras shouldnt be illegal.

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You're trying to trick us, aren't you?
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Chicago Bans Foie Gras

This stupid actress sounds like another Brigitte Bardot. Great [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I have visited farms where geese are grown, I have never witnessed such a thing.
I think this is pretty pathetic.
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