Slow Play?

shivvyman · #1 05-14-2005, 10:47 PM

What do I do on the flop? Slow play or raise like I did? I'm new to limit hold 'em and have taken the approach of 'bet/raise when in doubt.'

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (11.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (10.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

thesharpie · #2 05-14-2005, 10:53 PM

Raise now if in doubt. Wait for the turn if you think it's likely Mp1 will lead again and MP3 will call.

Arnfinn Madsen · #3 05-14-2005, 10:57 PM

I would have called, and raise at every opportunity after.

Redd · #4 05-14-2005, 10:59 PM

IMO second set with two connected and very popular cards on the flop is not the time to slow play. Nice hand.

SoftcoreRevolt · #5 05-14-2005, 11:06 PM

Perfectly played, it was an action flop and most of the time a villain will be willing to go to war, or at least get more money in now so those drawing dead stay in with improved odds.

Rev. Good Will · #6 05-14-2005, 11:24 PM

well played

don't usually slow down the flop

I only like to be slowplaying or flop C/R'ing if I wasn't the last one to do a raise, and if the flop is scary enough (all of this assuming I have an invulnurable hand as well)

ArturiusX · #7 05-14-2005, 11:43 PM

This is a good spot to fast play.

If anyone has an ace and is a slight maniac, they'll goto war with you, thinking you have a worse K.

If they don't, you won't get anymore money out of slowplaying anyway.

afk · #8 05-14-2005, 11:49 PM

I think you played this hand perfectly.

shivvyman · #9 05-14-2005, 11:53 PM

Here is another hand where I decided to slow play. Good or bad decision. My thought process was I was hoping somebody might hit their flush or chase high cars by me not raising after the flop came with my made full boat.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results:
 SB has 1010 for a bigger boat over mine.

afk · #10 05-14-2005, 11:56 PM

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Here is another hand where I decided to slow play. Good or bad decision. My thought process was I was hoping somebody might hit their flush or chase high cars by me not raising after the flop came with my made full boat.

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results:
 SB has 1010 for a bigger boat over mine.

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This one I don't mind so much. The pot is small and you're giving your opponents a chance to improve to a second best hand (ie flush).