How do i play these draws?!

[Pasterbator]

30 minutes into a $10 MTT on Party. No one has done anything crazy. With 382734 limpers, i decide to join with 910s on the button. When you flop a draw like this, how do you play it in a multi-player pot?

***** Hand History for Game 2603121539 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:15188997 Level:3 Blinds (15/30) - Friday, August 26, 21:00:47 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table(436910) Table #20 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: noGUTSnoNUTZ ( $920 )
Seat 2: pokeradk ( $1385 )
Seat 3: bocagirl ( $3210 )
Seat 4: brokedad0f1 ( $220 )
Seat 5: Pasterbator ( $1280 )
Seat 6: JSullivan152 ( $1935 )
Seat 8: widowmaker1 ( $655 )
Seat 9: sailfish65 ( $580 )
Seat 10: EL_ST0NER ( $790 )
Seat 7: DeerHunterBB ( $1185 )
Trny:15188997 Level:3
Blinds (15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Pasterbator [ 9h Th ]
widowmaker1 calls [30].
sailfish65 calls [30].
EL_ST0NER calls [30].
noGUTSnoNUTZ folds.
pokeradk calls [30].
bocagirl folds.
brokedad0f1 folds.
Pasterbator calls [30].
JSullivan152 calls [15].
DeerHunterBB checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, Qh, 9c ]
JSullivan152 checks.
DeerHunterBB checks.
widowmaker1 bets [50].
sailfish65 folds.
EL_ST0NER calls [50].
pokeradk calls [50].
Pasterbator calls [50]. SHOULD I RAISE HERE?
JSullivan152 folds.
DeerHunterBB is all-In [1155]
widowmaker1 is all-In [575]

Do i call for all of my chips?

[KneeCo]

either im confused, or important stuff is missing from you HH, the action of two players seems to be missing, I'll answer assuming they fold.

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Pasterbator calls [50]. SHOULD I RAISE HERE?

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I would.

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Do i call for all of my chips?

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ditto.

[Pasterbator]

yea, after the 2 all ins, everyone folds to me.

[The Student]

so early in a big MTT, I'm just calling on the flop. Why raise? You're not going to win the pot right here with a normal sized raise against a bettor and 2 callers on the flop with more people to act behind you. Right now you only have second pair, a draw to the fourth-best flush, and a gutshot straight flush draw - nothing you want to risk a lot of chips on before you hit one of you draws. If you had Ah/10h - giving you the nut flush draw and a gutshot straight draw, with 12 full outs, then you might think of pushing on the semi-bluff, but I don't like that line either.

Calling the 2 all-ins in front of you is a pretty bad idea. I don't think you have 12 outs here, and I wouldn't be surprised if you only have 3 (the non-heart jacks) to tie. With only second pair and some draws you're definitely behind at least one, but more likely both hands (you said nobody has done anything crazy yet, so they're most likely playing real hands like TPTK and the made straight). And I really don't like calling all your chips without the nut flush draw - way too many times you're behind a better heart draw.


I think you can't raise because their are too many people in the pot and you don't have enough chips to spare, and then you have to fold to the 2 pushes.

gl,

ts-

[KneeCo]

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Calling the 2 all-ins in front of you is a pretty bad idea. I don't think you have 12 outs here, and I wouldn't be surprised if you only have 3 (the non-heart jacks) to tie.

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Because you think if he made a straight flush it might not be good enough to take it down?

[Pasterbator]

Well, i did fold, because i decided someone likely had a straight or set, and all of my heart outs weren't good.

Turns out, they two villains flipped AQ and QJ. And i would have turned a flush to win it. I'm not really second guessing myself tho, because i didnt want to risk my entire tournament on a flush draw.

Thanks for the help.

[The Student]

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Well, i did fold, because i decided someone likely had a straight or set, and all of my heart outs weren't good.

Turns out, they two villains flipped AQ and QJ. And i would have turned a flush to win it. I'm not really second guessing myself tho, because i didnt want to risk my entire tournament on a (non-nut) flush draw.

Thanks for the help.

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fyp and good fold.

[SixgunSam]

I don't mind the call on the flop with this many people in the pot. With one or two other players, I would play this flop like a big hand, but with this many, I'm more aprehensive. I wouldn't call that all-in because at least one of those guys is drawing at the flush too and probably to a higher flush, so essentially all you have is an up and down straight draw and a pair of 9s and 2 outs for your straight flush. It's an unraised pot and you don't have much invested. I would find a better opportunity.

Wow you butchered this hand, you are a amateur.

[gus thegreatdane]

You played this hand awful

Its a $10 MTT and seeing how Party's tournament structure blows, this is a great hand to gamble and get some chips.

I raise the flop here and commit all my chips.