I get fancy...

[imported_ncray]

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Button seems to have a clue based on his stats. No way he calls the raise if he doesn't have a flush and was bluffing.

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If he is bluffing it doesn't matter if I 3-bet or not right? Either way I get nothing from Button.

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Yeah. Either way you get nothing from button. But you get an extra bet out of MP.

[krishanleong]

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Yeah. Either way you get nothing from button. But you get an extra bet out of MP.

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Won't I get that bet out of him when I raise the river?

Krishan

I like it, sort of a variation on going for an overcall. If you 3-bet, the button will almost certainly fold the turn. You still get +1BB on the turn this way, but you also have 2 potential callers on the river.

[Drontier]

dislike strongly. How many players at 10/20 muck flushes? What if he has a set?

[krishanleong]

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How many players at 10/20 muck flushes? What if he has a set?

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Q1. None.

Q2. Which player? And how much does my line miss out on versus your line?

Krishan

[Drontier]

well, my line would be bet/3bet. but you discovered a very clever check, but i dont understand why u didnt 3 bet after. our lines net the same at the end(unless by miracle it goes raise, 3 bet behind and we cap). but if u had 3 bet, ur line would have been better. The player MP looks like he could have a set.

[krishanleong]

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well, my line would be bet/3bet.

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You realize that you have the nut 1 card flush? This is going to go bet/raise basically never.

Krishan

[Drontier]

i think i wasnt clear in my original post. i meant taht i would be jamming bets in as the default line, but since u found a tricky check, and the action went bet/raise (hence most likely action in mine would be call/raise) you should be 3 betting, otherwise u net the same as mine. i know it rarely goes raise. sorry this sounds confusing.

I like it. You don't risk much on a whiff.

If you have the button I don't mind the turn smoothcall, but since you don't have it I strongly prefer to 3-bet. It could make you up to an additional 4 BBs.