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Old 07-18-2005, 10:20 PM
proell proell is offline
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Default first hand of a 20... do you ever call this flop push?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)
http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

CO (t800)
Hero (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
villian (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t15, Hero calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t102.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Villian bets 785 (all-in)... folds to Hero...???


seems like an obvious fold, but then what do you put the villian on here?
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:25 PM
Benholio Benholio is offline
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Default Re: first hand of a 20... do you ever call this flop push?

A3 or 33?
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:29 PM
ThaHero ThaHero is offline
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Default Re: first hand of a 20... do you ever call this flop push?

I think I fold. If you had raised pf(not sure how correct that play is on the button in 800 games, I play on Stars) then you might have a better idea of what Villain has. If he has AK, you're in terrible shape. KK and AQ as well, and even worse with AA or 33. A3 is a possibility, and so is K3s. Too many hands beat you IMO, it's too early, I fold a good percentage of the time.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:30 PM
cleinen cleinen is offline
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Default Re: first hand of a 20... do you ever call this flop push?

Maybe a bit to tight but i am probably folding preflop.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:32 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: first hand of a 20... do you ever call this flop push?

This is not good. Please limp on the button behind huge amounts of limpers with AJ.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:48 PM
proell proell is offline
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Default Re: first hand of a 20... do you ever call this flop push?

wouldn't you expect more of a slowplay with 33 (or even A3), expecially with no draws on the board? I would expect a check or small bet with 33 or A3.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:52 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: first hand of a 20... do you ever call this flop push?

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wouldn't you expect more of a slowplay with 33 (or even A3), expecially with no draws on the board? I would expect a check or small bet with 33 or A3.

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I think AQ and AT are more likely than 33 and A3.
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